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re: Auburn and the curse of Hickory Ground

Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:45 am to
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3678 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:45 am to
Auburn archeology department:

Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
7768 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:47 am to
quote:

Isn't there supposed to be an asteroid crater in Wetumpka?





Interesting info for sure. Thanks for pointing it out !





Sorry, sorry.... science nerd apologies .... please continue to argue about football or burial grounds or whatever.


Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
17443 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:56 am to
quote:

Auburn is actually cursed

Posted by WarEagleWes
Eastaboga
Member since Oct 2014
618 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 7:57 am to
Sounds legit
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3678 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:21 am to
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In the fall of 2023, I was invited to Auburn University by the Southern Humanities Review on behalf of the Witness Prize, a prize I juried. I requested a meeting with the NAGPRA officer of the university in charge of the Hickory Ground and other remains held on campus from other digs. When we met in his office on campus, he informed me that because of the appeal he could not speak directly about the Hickory Ground case. We spoke generally about NAGPRA. He offered to allow me into the room where the remains and items were being held on campus along with remains from other digs. I had been properly cautioned about going into the presence of the remains, which I took seriously. What I have been taught by elders is that our remains carry memory. Each cell contains a spiral of stories that belong to ancestors and to descendants. What is buried is meant to remain buried. There is no word or concept in the Mvskoke language for what the Poarch Band did when they unearthed that which was never be returned to the surface. When I went into the room in which our relatives’ bones were stored, I turned immediately to flee. I almost couldn’t breathe. I paused though because I wanted to be a witness to help tell the story. I heard the roar of disturbance, the voices of the ancestors, and understood how they needed to be reinterred, for harmony. When graves are disturbed, there can be widespread disturbance that can cause illness, societal upset, and other disruption. I promised I would help them return home, to restore harmony by telling the story.


On behalf of the ancestors
Posted by PuertoRicanBlaze
Book Board Admin
Member since Apr 2024
6555 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 8:54 am to
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Interesting info for sure. Thanks for pointing it out !


I don't live in Alabama but it's on my bucket list now.
Posted by GoldenDawg
Dawg in Exile
Member since Oct 2013
21213 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:00 am to
It's all starting to make sense.

Posted by wareaglepete
Lumon Industries
Member since Dec 2012
17067 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:05 am to
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31622 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:12 am to
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You bama fans are obsessed with Auburn.
No one's obsessed.

Gus was fired in Dec 2020, in 4 yrs 10 months, AU's searching for a coach again. People are going to discuss this on message boards.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20457 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:30 am to
quote:

When I went into the room in which our relatives’ bones were stored, I turned immediately to flee. I almost couldn’t breathe. I paused though because I wanted to be a witness to help tell the story. I heard the roar of disturbance, the voices of the ancestors, and understood how they needed to be reinterred, for harmony. When graves are disturbed, there can be widespread disturbance that can cause illness, societal upset, and other disruption. I promised I would help them return home, to restore harmony by telling the story.


Who knew Indians had a flair for the dramatic?

Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19281 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:45 am to
sounds to me like the Muscogee ghosts are more pissed at the Poarches for getting that prime casino property while their ancestors were forced to live in Okla-fricking-homa

cant say that i blame them
Posted by Drydock
Osage County
Member since Oct 2013
8031 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:46 am to
"Those whom the gods would curse, they would first make proud."





Explains the whole Cam Newton thing. So many things start to make sense.
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3678 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 9:58 am to
The Muscogee basically consider the Poarches a fake tribe descended from traitors, with no claim whatsoever to the Hickory Ground site.

As for Auburn, storing the remains on campus in less than ideal conditions isn’t winning them any brownie points. If you ever wonder if you are cursed, the first thing you should ask yourself is “Did we desecrate a sacred Indian burial ground?” If the answer is yes, the second question might be “We’re not by chance still hanging on to the remains, are we?”
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3678 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:38 pm to
Shameless bump but I updated the title with a name for the curse.

It’s one thing to desecrate a sacred burial ground and build something amazing there. But for a trashy casino with only video bingo games? Yikes
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
21674 posts
Posted on 11/3/25 at 12:47 pm to
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You bama fans are obsessed with Auburn. I believe yall are all democrats, searching for what ever dirt you can find on Auburn,


You sound stable..
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