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re: AU putting all the eggs in Newton basket

Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:23 pm to
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It wasn't all that long ago we were in the race for the SEC crown year in and year out.


Being in the race is one thing, but winning it is another. AU once again is in the race but hasn't proved squat. How did that elite offense do against an average LSU defense last year?
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:25 pm to
I never said we'd win the SEC this year broseph, but we have the talent to do well. I'm saying your claims of our coaches and facilities being subpar are baseless.


Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:27 pm to
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facilities being subpar


recruits don't care
Posted by thatguyrightthere
Member since Mar 2010
3674 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:28 pm to
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IMO AU does not have the best facilities, the best coaches, the best academic center, etc...

Maybe not the best but Auburn still has good facilities, a good coaching staff, a nice school with good academics, a great fan base, a program with a good history, and a great atmoshpere surrounding the school and the program that kids want to be a part of. We just finally have a HC and staff that aren't going to be lazy and are going to use those things to pull in recruits.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6388 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:28 pm to
It fell apart again in the 4th.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:28 pm to
eh, I've always thought it wasn't some huge deal for recruiting as long as they didn't suck, but good facilities are always a good thing to have for the "wow" factor.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:31 pm to
halftime adjustments baybee


just shows me that Malzahn can adjust his offense to the "everyone get in a zone at the line" defense that some people say is the sure fire way to stop the offense.
This post was edited on 4/4/10 at 4:32 pm
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90742 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:31 pm to
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You will likely see copy cats to big cat weekend from other teams as Bama is considering something similar as well.


lol.. whut?
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:31 pm to
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Go read Chris Brown's old blog about Gus' offense where he says it really is a smash mouth offense where the QB is in the shotgun position. Hence it is not gimmicky it is a traditional offense run at a much faster pace and a lot of motion. In some ways you could call it gimmicky but most say it is gimmicky because they think it is a finesse offense that requires only timing and there is not serious hard hitting.

I will say it again if you are clueless Auburn's facilities are at or near the top in nearly every category, the only place we lag behind is indoor practice facility but we just got new dorms, workout room was updated/upgraded recently. That is just the minor stuff but as said that is not what sells recruits but you don't want to listen to that, you like to believe the millions being thrown at a program to have some little thing another program doesn't have will sell a recruit to go to that school and it doesn't.

I assumed this was a fishing post because it was filled with so many inaccuracies and chat forum trash talk that it only made sense.

Auburn finished 16th in total offense this year with a massive 3 game lull where Todd was banged up and simply put the offense didn't execute well. Also note this was the first year of the offense. Gus saw that his offense was weak against the blitz in specific situations, weaker than he originally though which some attribute to Todd not being mobile at times, so he made some changes. Expect to see Lutz our TE in the similar role as Fannin last year making this look very similar to a traditional offense with more motion and a lot more plays. That said the plays are just one part of it all teams get film on all offenses after that it comes down to execution and play calling, that is something Gus has shown to do very well most of the time. He did outsmart himself at times like the Arkansas game where he had a very elaborate offensive strategy but even then we pulled within striking range only to fumble on the goalline which would have put us within a TD of winning with an entire quarter of play to go.

We have more offensive weapons next year I expect more consistent play at QB which means the offense will perform better next year if we simply remain the same and our QB doesn't get injured like last year. Also another terrifying thing for you to think about is that Todd never threw the ball deep like Gus wanted to last year, expect to see 5-8 35+ yard throws next year per game. That will open up the running game more just by virtue of the fact that the reciever keeps the safety deeper than normal.

Defensively had we not put the walkons in for Furman and Ball State the total defense ranking would have been 46th and that is doubling those teams performance from the first half. When you figure the fact that at the end of the season we effectively had 3 linebackers and a corner moved to safety as we had massive injuries and 3 of our DTs were dinged up and yet the defense improved next year looks very good. We will have quality depth at linebacker and safety is amazingly deep and talented we are looking strong there.
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:32 pm to
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'm saying your claims of our coaches and facilities being subpar are baseless.



Wikipedia is not your friend



With regards to facilities, I have already explained.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:34 pm to
WTF is this retarded crap?

What team does not depend on their starting qb?

Are you saying if Newton sucks and we have a better option we will not play him?

Are you saying Newton was not the best qb we could have gotten last year that may be able to come in and start this year?

I nominate this as an early contender for SEC Rant idiot post of the month for April.
This post was edited on 4/4/10 at 4:35 pm
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6388 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:37 pm to
But you still lost, because the adjustments didn't carry for the length of the second half. I like the offense I really do, but I just can't see it working full bore for the whole of a game.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:40 pm to
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But you still lost, because the adjustments didn't carry for the length of the second half. I like the offense I really do, but I just can't see it working full bore for the whole of a game.


Gus admitted after the game he had too complex a game plan for a road game. Also we fumbled when we had pulled within striking range. I never said we would have won the game but we pulled within a reasonable score that could have been won. We shot ourselves in the foot often that game. That said Arkansas was ready and prepared for Gus, he had several tendencies last year that were glaring after a few games, mostly due to our limited personnel, but Ark was ready for them. They played the game and won. I also worry about that game as well as Petrion has a great offense I just think our defense will finally be healthy enough to slow the offense for ours to over take your defense, that said it will be a great game to watch.
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:40 pm to
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WTF is this retarded crap?


I wonder the same about you guys getting jacked up over another school's leftovers.

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What team does not depend on their starting qb?
Um... where did anyone say a team shouldn't?

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Are you saying if Newton sucks and we have a better option we will not play him?


I never said he sucks. He is unproven. Basically, he was anointed starter before spring and Aubs know it.


quote:

Are you saying Newton was not the best qb we could have gotten last year that may be able to come in and start this year?


Jeez, you're reading comprehension is amazing.

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I nominate this as an early contender for SEC Rant idiot post of the month for April.


Really, because the only thing you mentioned relevant in your entire line of questioning was "WTF is this retarded crap?"


Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
23134 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:42 pm to
I'm done with you Aubbies. You are some sick, twisted, & delusional fans in this thread. Yes this includes me but that has nothing to do with football.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:42 pm to
Your post was/is retarded and adds nothing worth discussing.

That is about all the time I am wasting on you. Come back with something worth discussing and I will discuss it TIA.
Posted by thatguyrightthere
Member since Mar 2010
3674 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:46 pm to
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I'm done with you Aubbies

Did we not bite the way you wanted?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
49999 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:54 pm to
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Basically, he was anointed starter by Auburn fans before spring and Aubs know it.

FIFY.


Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34391 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:58 pm to
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I'm done with you Aubbies. You are some sick, twisted, & delusional fans in this thread.


Practically everything you "argued" in this thread can be said about 90% of all teams. There was no discussion here. You stated your unfavorable opinion about Auburn Football and you had no intention of giving any ground.

This is what you wanted and to deny it makes you just as "sick, twisted, & delusional" as you think everyone else is.
Posted by CFBFAN1121
Abbottabad, Pakistan
Member since Sep 2006
4174 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 5:14 pm to
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Unfortunately Ross he may have a point, Arkansas has seen his system at 2 different schools and has defeated it both times


I love how Arky fans love to act like they shut down Malzahn in those two games. If I recall correctly, CUSA's Tulsa put up 500+ yds on Arky that year, more than any other team, Arky might have won the game but it sure as hell wasnt because Tulsa couldn't move the ball.

Props for Arky beating AU, but we still put up 400 yds of offense,that's not shutting an offense out. Now what LSU did to us, that's a shutout.
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