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re: AU putting all the eggs in Newton basket

Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:30 pm to
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Disqualified for playing in the PAC-10


Posted by beaver
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:30 pm to
so tell me why you think Cam picked AU over MSU?
Posted by blackrose890
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:32 pm to
That's kind of irrelavent isn't it? Until MSU gets to a bowl game for 2-3 years in a row they aren't gonna pull talent from Auburn.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:33 pm to
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Bingo! That is exactly why Schaeffer went to OM but it wasn't just for the opportunity to play QB, it was also for playing time.


Newton was a QB in HS though, and was recruited by everyone as a QB. I don't think he's gonna come in a throw 35 TDs and win a Heisman or anything, but I don't think he's gonna be a disaster like Schaeffer was. Schaeffer just wanted to play QB even though he wasn't capable of playing that position at the D1 level.
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:35 pm to
I mean if it's all bout PT there was a much better chance to for sure start at MSU...I thought Caudle may even start this season as the starter for us...not to mention Newtons connection to Mullen
Posted by SloMeaux
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:39 pm to
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so tell me why you think Cam picked AU over MSU?



because he couldn't stay at Florida.


MSU<AU<<<UF

Posted by Sao
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:40 pm to

FWIW, Newton is your starter and I am very happy that he is.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:40 pm to
AU wasn't even 2nd in the running until a little bit before signing day, Oklahoma was. So you can imagine why people would be suspicious that all of a sudden he spurns two schools for AU.
Posted by rangers911
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:40 pm to
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is going to hurt them. This has been done before. I realize that Cam was a transfer and to reel him in Chizik probably pulled an Orgeron/Schaefer stunt that by default made him the starter.

More than any team in the SEC, I believe the promises made to this year's recruiting class will bite AU in the long run. No doubt a majority of the signees were probably promised more playing time than any recruit from UF, UAt, Arky, or LSU. People are overhyping Auburn because of last year's offensive performance combined with this year's recruiting class.

IMO, I think the SEC has a bead on the gimmicks. I'm not hating on AU but I still think they lose 5 regular season games next year.



While I'm sure this is a good fishing attempt, otherwise you are clueless about football.

Auburn did not promise Newton anything, he was told we wanted him and that if he worked hard he could be the starter but he was not promised. You could argue heavy favoritism but not given a job. Newton has lived in the film room and worked with the receivers the moment he arrived on campus. he has stated few people get a second chance at this level and he does not intend to mess this up, it remains to be seen if he will but all indications he is trying.Also we will have a quality backup QB that will be named and to be honest whoever is named our backup would be competing for the starting spot at many other SEC schools including LSU and UGA, sorry JJ is not an elite QB.

The only promises made to this years recruiting class was early playing time and some very hot names. Sorry but Auburn has an exciting offense to watch with a big name OC who can and will pull in top talent. Also several of the players recruited felt really at home and pushed other recruits to come as well. Also simply put Chizik and staff have out worked most others in the recruiting area, even Saban. You will likely see copy cats to big cat weekend from other teams as Bama is considering something similar as well.

The offense is not gimmicky if you ever pay attention to it you'd know this but I believe this went over your head. We are down in a 3 point stance and several of our bread and butter plays are the power and counter plays which are smash mouth football. The offense last year put up amazing points against SEC teams to the point you have to go back to 2005 to find a season where an Auburn offense out did or equaled it in performance. This is taking into account a 3 game rough spot after Todd banged up his shoulder in the UT game. That is not totally to blame but Todd was not 100% and the offensive line was struggling as they were worn out at times. Going into this year Auburn has 4 seniors and 1 junior on the offensive line we have a fairly senior heavy defense and several talented receivers, if Newton pans out as average Auburn's offense will be at or near top 10 in all of college football. If he lives up to half the expectations Auburn fans have put on him you'll see a top 5 or better offense on the field that teams in the SEC will have to figure out how to slow down enough to out score us.

Also facilities wise Auburn is right at the top with the other elite teams in the SEC. To say one team in the SEC holds a clear advantage in facilities is retarded and simply not true, while some teams may have newer facilities in one area in another another team has newer because of the contant building.
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 3:46 pm to
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Newton was a QB in HS though,


Brent Schaffer Rivals


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I don't think he's gonna come in a throw 35 TDs and win a Heisman or anything,


I agree

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but I don't think he's gonna be a disaster like Schaeffer was.


I don't see how any QB can be.
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:01 pm to
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AU wasn't even 2nd in the running until a little bit before signing day, Oklahoma was. So you can imagine why people would be suspicious that all of a sudden he spurns two schools for AU.

Yeeeeah.... couldn't be cause he wanted an AU offer out of high school and wanted to go to Auburn. Had to be because we paid him.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:01 pm to
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because he didn't want to stay at Florida.


According to him.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:07 pm to
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As someone who is the age of the recruits I can assure you kids my age don't care about the facilities. As long as they aren't absolute crap they will be impressed. Kids care about publicity, makin it to the nfl, playing time, and where their friends go. Why do you think Bama is getting more Georgia recruited lately? It's because Alabama is a better team than Georgia right now. This means they get more time on sportscenter. No one wants to play for the team that gets no time on sportscenter.


Studies that were done show that playing time combined with exposure are the reasons kids go to a school now. It is why running backs tend to go to Auburn, LSU, or Bama over other schools as traditionally they are known for running backs and their backs get a lot of press. Same reason receivers tend to go to Florida as Florida's receivers get a lot of press as well and typically are used more often. Obviously tons of other aspects play into this such as the coaching staff family and so on but those are the main things. Facilities, program history, and other things are way down the list.
Posted by adammwilson
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:08 pm to
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playing time combined with exposure are the reasons kids go to a school now


so I was right.
Posted by SloMeaux
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:10 pm to
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While I'm sure this is a good fishing attempt, otherwise you are clueless about football


I was offering an opinion to the SEC Rant. It was not an attack on Auburn


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You could argue heavy favoritism but not given a job


Ok let's call it that.


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JJ is not an elite QB.


Really? Because all of the LSU fans I know thinks he is the next Davey O’Brien winner.


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The only promises made to this years recruiting class was early playing time and some very hot names.


Um these are the players to whom I was referring. I wasn't talking about the typical Auburn 3*.


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The offense is not gimmicky if you ever pay attention to it you'd know this but I believe this went over your head.


Really?


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Going into this year Auburn has 4 seniors and 1 junior on the offensive line we have a fairly senior heavy defense and several talented receivers, if Newton pans out as average Auburn's offense will be at or near top 10 in all of college football. I


Much like Crowton's early successs stemmed from the element of surprise. Malzahn will pan out the same. All of the SEC now has game film and experience against the Auburn vaunted offense. I will be glad to come back and eat crow if Auburn finishes Top 15 in offense next year with a new QB.

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o say one team in the SEC holds a clear advantage in facilities is retarded and simply not true


I agree but you have to look at the full body of work. Auburn falls below UF, AL, UGA, LSU, and UT in the overall scheme of things. Auburn is second fiddle in it's own home state.

However, making claims like ya'll are going to be in scoring shootouts with SEC elite defenses on the field makes you look like the one who is "clueless about football."



Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:11 pm to
Man, you're crazy if you think the only thing Auburn offers to recruits is playing time. It wasn't all that long ago we were in the race for the SEC crown year in and year out. Our coaches are fine, our facilities are fine, and our program is fine.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:18 pm to
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Much like Crowton's early successs stemmed from the element of surprise. Malzahn will pan out the same. All of the SEC now has game film and experience against the Auburn vaunted offense. I will be glad to come back and eat crow if Auburn finishes Top 15 in offense next year with a new QB.


you have nothing to base that on. Like, at all.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:20 pm to
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Had to be because we paid him.


Glad you can admit it.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:20 pm to
Unfortunately Ross he may have a point, Arkansas has seen his system at 2 different schools and has defeated it both times. IT will be figured out, but everything is subject to this.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47827 posts
Posted on 4/4/10 at 4:23 pm to
beating Tulsa doesn't really mean anything, and I might just be misremembering facts, but didn't the offense perform decent in that game?


In our game this year the offense started out slow, but by the second half we were clicking on all cylinders.
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