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re: aTm Fans: What's the scoop on Kstate?

Posted on 12/15/11 at 12:49 am to
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 12:49 am to
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Personally I think fundamentals are the only thing keeping us from being a very solid defense.

It's always missed tackling and not finding the ball in the air that gives up the big plays. We always have players in position.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41513 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 12:52 am to
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holy fricking shite. I knew they were shite for defense but i didn't know they were WAC bad.

Yep, 102 passing and 83 rushing.

Kansas St is 74th in total defense, 104 passing and 39 rushing.

For comparison, we are 51 in total defense, 27 passing and 79 rushing.
Posted by Boarford T Justice
I didn't agree, but taking one^^^^^
Member since Jan 2011
1830 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 12:56 am to
Kansas State=Smoke and mirrors.....

Somebody remember to bump this January 7th.
This post was edited on 12/15/11 at 12:58 am
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 12:59 am to
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we are 51 in total defense

and we suck something awful.



quote:

Kansas St is 74th in total defense

that is just pathetic.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 2:13 am to
Y'all have 10x the talent personnel wise that they do, but as was said before they've beaten a lot of team that were much better than them on paper including us. I think y'all win by 10-17, but the only thing that worries me is y'alls run defense. I don't know if it improved from when we played y'all but it definitely seemed like a giant weakness and thats one thing K State does really well on offense. I could see them keeping it closer than it should be via controlling the clock and running the ball well.
Posted by Texag
College Station
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 6:43 am to
I picked ark to win with 20 confidence if that will tell you anything
Posted by Texag
College Station
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 6:44 am to
Spy their QB in all red zone situations
Posted by Smash Mouth Tider
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 6:45 am to
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Do you think Arkansas is the better team? Do you think they thrash our defense? Do we blow them out or is it a close game?


I don't know, but I'll be pulling for Kstate.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 7:27 am to
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I don't know, but I'll be pulling for Kstate.



Friend of yours?
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Posted by ronnielee54
Van Buren, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 7:41 am to
Well he did say pulling.
Posted by Smoke Ring
Scenic Highway Crackhouse
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 7:49 am to
If you enjoy watching a running QB, you'll like watching the KState Offense. They employ just about every type of running QB you can imagine. Some of their stuff is even single-wingesque, lots of motions and lead blockers.

Their QB is a gamer. Not pretty to watch, but he makes plays.

Arkansas has a large advantage athletically, and I expect Arkansas to win. But Snyder will have a great game plan, it will be methodical, we'll see if it's effective.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 7:53 am to
Honestly, the game worries me. On paper, I feel like we should beat them. But it's a bowl game and we suck in bowl games.

I'm glad Willy is gone. If Willy were still here I would probably put this game as a loss because we'd play the entire game without spying their QB. At least with Haynes on board there's some hope that he'll attempt to slow down the running QB instead of just ignoring him.

I'd like to see us go to a traditional 4-3 this game and only use Nelson/Rassner on long distance plays. Let Franklin, Hightower, and Williams get all of the snaps so we can better stop the run. We essentially went to this against LSU in an effort to slow down their run game.
Posted by Quantrill
Kansas City, MO
Member since Nov 2011
732 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:23 am to
I think it's funny the hoglets asked A$M fans, when Mizzou plays K-state every single year and our media market covers k-state as well as kU and Mizzou.

Ah well.
Posted by 870Hog
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Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:33 am to
Well by all means, share.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 8:54 am to
U mad.
Posted by FrogKiller
Frisco
Member since Jun 2010
58 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 9:01 am to
It's because no one remembers mizz is in the SEC

Posted by KingofDeQueen
Member since Oct 2009
1085 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 9:19 am to
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It's because no one remembers mizz is in the SEC


SEC Big12 Division w/ Ags and Arky.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4941 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 9:24 am to
The reason oSu was 11-1 with a 107th ranked defense is that they were something like +27 in TO margin. I think the same is true with K-State. Their defense is not overwhelming, but they don't give up big plays and are great at creating turnovers.
Posted by NCrawler
Sherwood
Member since Nov 2010
2152 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 10:00 am to
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I think it's funny the hoglets asked A$M fans, when Mizzou plays K-state every single year and our media market covers k-state as well as kU and Mizzou.

Ah well.


We have a long history with A&M and while we may not like them very much we do still value their opinion. Oh, and you guys are a bunch of dirty yankees so your opinion does not matter in the south...
Posted by hogminer
Bella Vista, AR.
Member since Apr 2010
10289 posts
Posted on 12/15/11 at 10:14 am to
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I think it's funny the hoglets asked A$M fans, when Mizzou plays K-state every single year and our media market covers k-state as well as kU and Mizzou.


You guys lost 38-0 to KSU. I dont think you could give an objective analysis.
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