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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/20/13 at 5:51 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 5:51 pm to
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His style of play will cost yall in the turnover department, though.


Let's examine that a little closer:

Florida game: 0 turnovers

SMU game: 0 turnovers

SCSU game: Showers Interception

Arkansas game: 0 turnovers

Ole Miss game: Michael Fumble, Manziel INT (x2), Manziel Fumble, Swope Fumble, Harris Fumbled Punt

Louisiana Tech game: Manziel INT

LSU game: Manziel INT (x3), Malena Fumble, Swope Fumble

Auburn game: No turnovers

Mississippi State game: Manziel fumble (bad call as he was already across the goalline)

Alabama game: No turnovers

SHSU game: Manziel INT, Williams Fumble

Missouri game: Manziel INT

Oklahoma game: Manziel INT

So, out of all of our turnovers last season:

-Johnny Manziel had 10 (I'm not counting the "fumble" in Starkville as that was a TD)

-Ryan Swope had 2

-Ben Malena had 1

-Christine Michael had 1

-Dustin Harris had 1 on a punt return

-Trey Williams had 1

-Jameill Showers had 1

Of those 17 turnovers (over 13 games), players responsible for 5 are no longer on the team.

Our problem in the turnover department was FORCING turnovers. We only forced 16 turnovers.
This post was edited on 8/20/13 at 5:54 pm
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12295 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 7:30 pm to
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I know this is hypothetical, but just remember we lost by 5 with 2 very makeable FG's and a missed PAT.


And if Ole Miss doesn't go shotgun on 4th and inches... and if Bama just runs the ball....

This is an easy game to play, pretending every thing else is stagnant and if we just changed one thing.

Pretty funny for the LSU - Aggy game... you don't cross the 35 for over 3 quarters... have penalties 2:1 in your favor; have a int disallowed due to a penalty; but gosh you were simply one minor kick away.... ofcourse you were
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12295 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 7:32 pm to
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JFF will not be stopped.


*Yawn* 27 yards on 17 carries, 3 INTs and a 4th called back on a penalty (never mind Reids pure drop).

Dude got schooled all day in his own bat shite park. We don't need to speculate on whether he will be or can be stopped. He was.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22577 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 7:44 pm to
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*Yawn* 27 yards on 17 carries, 3 INTs and a 4th called back on a penalty (never mind Reids pure drop).


You need to add "no TD's" rushing or passing... JFF accounted for no points in that game.
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:12 pm to
haha, these damn corndogs now talk as if the game was a blowout. You sure wouldn't be those fans in the stadium who were shitting their pants for most of the game.

Congrats to LSU on the victory though, your team earned the right. You might not have much room to talk after the game this year.

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74227 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:15 pm to
yawn. welcome to Death Valley
Posted by beardkp
H-Town
Member since Feb 2013
1040 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:34 pm to
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You sure wouldn't be those fans in the stadium who were shitting their pants for most of the game.


Most of the game??? We were winning the entire 2nd half and actually longer since we went ahead with about a minute left in the 2nd. So "MOST" of the game, LSU was winning ust for the record.
This post was edited on 8/20/13 at 8:36 pm
Posted by bamakat
anniston, al
Member since Nov 2010
1700 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 8:58 pm to
I think the problem with A&M is that you act like you are the end all be all. If it was Bama & LSU talking... we respect each other because we have seen these battles go on for years. Ya'll had a good team last year and yes you beat us but there is more to it than beating Bama one time. JMO
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
26464 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:42 pm to
A&M isn't there yet... We will be playing a LOT of fish on defense this year. But we are definitely a solid third in the West, with the ability to beat either of the top two. Will that happen? Who knows. But in a few years, A&M will have the defensive talent and depth we haven't since I've been in school.

And I'm not worried about the offense. It is starting to look like the true freshman Hill is going to take the backup job. He's been playing in a system like this for years. Then you have Kyle Allen coming in at the midterm next Fall... definitely not worried about the offense. We are ahead of schedule, but we haven't arrived just yet.

I'm just looking forward to watching our offense with Evans, RSJ, Cam Clear, etc lining up at the same time. Those are some TALL, athletic receivers. Our offense is going to be a LOT more versatile than it was last year. No substitutions either ;)
Posted by WreckingCrue
Member since Aug 2013
765 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:57 pm to
This is the deal.

SEC keeps explaining how we have not won the conference yet, after 1 year. That is a good point. But a compliment.

A&M went into a conference being told by the whole conference and this board that the defense of the SEC would destroy A&M.

All A&M did in year 1 was destroy the ALL TIME SEC OFFENSIVE RECORD - thats all.

and provide college football with its first freshman Heisman winner.

Thats a big deal. Check the sports media - any second of any day - if you are confused about this.
Posted by WreckingCrue
Member since Aug 2013
765 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 9:58 pm to
This is the deal.

SEC keeps explaining how we have not won the conference yet, after 1 year. That is a good point. But a compliment.

A&M went into a conference being told by the whole conference and this board that the defense of the SEC would destroy A&M.

All A&M did in year 1 was destroy the ALL TIME SEC OFFENSIVE RECORD - thats all.

and provide college football with its first freshman Heisman winner.

Thats a big deal. Check the sports media - any second of any day - if you are confused about this.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 10:06 pm to
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We will be playing a LOT of fish on defense this year.


You didn't complete that sentence. The part you left out was...but starting none.

Starters are:

2 Seniors (Ennis, Jenkins)
5 Juniors (Baggs, Sanders, Everett, Honeycutt, Matthews)
4 Sophomores (Obioha, Williams, Alexander, Harris)

Last year we started:

4 Seniors (Porter, Stewart, Nealy, Terrell)
3 Juniors (Moore, Ennis, Jenkins)
2 Sophomores (Everett, Matthews)
2 Freshmen (Obioha, Harris)
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 10:07 pm to
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Do I believe a good core of Aggies have BAS and are unhealthfully obsessed with UT? Um yeah.


Just outed himself as an Aggie alter.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
95017 posts
Posted on 8/20/13 at 11:37 pm to
quote:

WreckingCrue

quote:

This is the deal.

SEC keeps explaining how we have not won the conference yet, after 1 year. That is a good point. But a compliment.

A&M went into a conference being told by the whole conference and this board that the defense of the SEC would destroy A&M.

All A&M did in year 1 was destroy the ALL TIME SEC OFFENSIVE RECORD - thats all.


Although I don't know you, you sound rather insecure. Just relax, your team will "arrive".
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 8:14 am to
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Posted by Vanilla Coke
Member since Jan 2013
1343 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:06 am to
quote:

these damn corndogs


so mad.

Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12295 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:24 am to
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haha, these damn corndogs now talk as if the game was a blowout. You sure wouldn't be those fans in the stadium who were shitting their pants for most of the game.


? Never said it was a blowout. And yes, I was sitting in Estadio Batshit - worst smelling stadium (in the Zone atleast) ever.

Although was not shitting my pants. Standard close LSU game where the D didn't allow the opponent to cross the 35 for over 45 minutes....
never losing in 2nd half.

Anyways, I was not saying it was a blowout, but simply mocking the claims JFF was 'unstoppable'. Clearly he was and is stoppable. He is 1-2 against the 3 best D's he has faced.

Although given 3rd in the SEC West is treated like a championship by you guys - I am not surprised 1-2 is considered 'unstoppable'

Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12295 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:28 am to
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Do I believe a good core of Aggies have BAS and are unhealthfully obsessed with UT? Um yeah.
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Just outed himself as an Aggie alter.


Aggie alter with several thousand tigerdroppings posts? Alright cowboy.

Work with Aggies for 15 years provides me with plenty of insight into your good bull/bad bull, fish camp, don't whoop frosh, BAS complex etc.

I know you guys are not used to people paying attention to you.
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
11245 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:28 am to
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Standard close LSU game where the D didn't allow the opponent to cross the 35 for over 45 minutes....

So I assume you didn't see the first two drives of the game?
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
12295 posts
Posted on 8/21/13 at 9:35 am to
No I saw them - then I saw the unstoppable get pummelled for over 3 quarters after the adjustment was made.

This really isn't that difficult guys. Like against the 3 best defenses he played. Huge first quarter (and start of 2nd with Florida) - less than double digits for the last half or 3 qtrs after that.

If that is unstoppable then, yes 3rd in the west is worth celebrating.
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