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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/16/13 at 3:35 am to
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
23143 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 3:35 am to
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I also heard on the radio today that JFF personally has to do whatever he can to get them to stop anyone but the school from profiting off of his likeness in order to maintain eligibility, which includes sending cease and desists to them and also sites like eBay that are selling his autographs. I thought it would be up to the school or the NCAA but they said at end of the day the responsibility is the players.


The Manziels have actually had attorneys sending cease and desist letters. Which is probably what pissed off some of these autograph dealers in the first place.

Shitty rule, but they've complied with it.
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3716 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:01 am to
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With that being said you guys may be stuck with him for another year after this one if he does not get ruled ineligible?


Wont happen. He will declare 100% after this season. Suspension or not.
Posted by MrSEC
Buckeye, AZ
Member since Sep 2012
1053 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 8:32 am to
I suspect a certain chancellor's comments will be dissected here today.

Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:02 am to
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A law was passed in 1987 regarding this, a federal suite could be brought in a Texas court.


Flash...if you are going to play interwebz lawyer, learn how to spell "suit".
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16162 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:03 am to
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I suspect a certain chancellor's comments will be dissected here today.


I am surprised they haven't been discussed yet.

From what ESPN played, one could certainly be led to believe that TAMU knows he did it, may well have proof he did it, and are now looking for a way to keep him eligible or at least lessen the blow.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
26871 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:07 am to
Runssillo(sp) from SVP said it was confirmed he was paid. Was that accurate or was this just his speculation. Sorry I haven't really kept up with this a whole lot. Btw this was an interview he did on a local sports radio show in BR not from his show with SVP.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:20 am to
does this mean it's time for again?
Posted by Palooza11
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
2561 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:29 am to
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Runssillo(sp) from SVP said it was confirmed he was paid. Was that accurate or was this just his speculation. Sorry I haven't really kept up with this a whole lot. Btw this was an interview he did on a local sports radio show in BR not from his show with SVP.


This entire situation has been speculation. It has been the media doing a witch hunt on one player, knowing that all these brokers sold autographs for other elite level athletes. Did he take money? I am pretty sure he did, but it hasn't been proven. Its all speculation and all these reporters are drooling to find some dumbass that will tell them JFF got paid, excluding any sort of concrete evidence.


It is not wise to frick with the Manziels. They will fight until the end. They certainly have all the resources in the known universe.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 9:31 am
Posted by bama my heart
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Member since Mar 2007
1293 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:40 am to
Why don't the Manziels just buy Little Johnny a NFL team and let him be the star on that? That's all we hear about is how much money that they have. I really don't think that Paul Manziel is JR Ewing or anything like that.
He should be teaching his son some morals and character instead of greed and entitlement. When you sign that committment form, you agree to follow the rules that are in place at that time, and if you don't you are made aware that you could lose your scholarship. You agreed to it, so live by it. That is just a fact of life. If you go to school on an academic scholarship, you are made aware that if you don't keep a certain grade average you will lose that scholarship, and if you do lose it,you don't get to bring in the entire state of Texas to argue the case that they should give you another shot.

It's going to be so hard for Little Johnny to grow up and be a man, when his own father has not mastered that.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31890 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:41 am to
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It is not wise to frick with the Manziels. They will fight until the end. They certainly have all the resources in the known universe.
No one is fricking with the Manziels but the worldwide leader in sports reporting---> ESPiN. Do the Manziels have the resources to fight them? And would it be worth exhausting your resources if there is even a teeny, tiny hint of possible impropriety on JFF's part?

Posted by Herman Frisco
Bon Secour
Member since Sep 2008
17733 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:50 am to
Resources will only take you so far. In this day and age a cover up on a story this big will be almost impossible . If JFF received money for his name it will come out no matter how much money is spent to keep it from happening.
A lawsuit against the proven truth will only cost more money in the end.
I have no idea if he is guilty or just stupid, but he is at least one and perhaps both.
Posted by MrSEC
Buckeye, AZ
Member since Sep 2012
1053 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:51 am to
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It has been the media doing a witch hunt on one player


Wut?

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knowing that all these brokers sold autographs for other elite level athletes


Wut?

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Did he take money? I am pretty sure he did, but it hasn't been proven


NCAA isn't a court of law. This has been explained 50 billion times, give or take a few. The NCAA does not need proof. They just need to believe an event occurred.

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Its all speculation and all these reporters are drooling to find some dumbass that will tell them JFF got paid, excluding any sort of concrete evidence


I agree. In fact, it probably went down like this: "Hey, fellow reporters, we need to screw with some college player to generate viewers and readers to our wonderful media outlets. I got it! Let's concoct a story in which the Heisman winner sold his autograph to these autograph dealers! No one likes Johnathan Manziel anyway with him living it up like a rock star and whatnot. We will polarize the nation and they'll watch our network and read our webpages in droves. Man, glad I thought of this because, as we all know, ESPN has had lots of trouble getting anyone to watch Sportscenter lately. This is brilliance!"

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It is not wise to frick with the Manziels. They will fight until the end. They certainly have all the resources in the known universe.


Someone tell the Disney Corporation they've been passed.

This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 9:52 am
Posted by cheezag03
H-town
Member since Sep 2011
608 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 9:51 am to
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I really don't think that Paul Manziel is JR Ewing or anything like that.


Paul was quoted in that ESPN mag article saying he didn't have Garth Brooks money so I believe your asessment is correct.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16162 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:19 am to
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No one is fricking with the Manziels but the worldwide leader in sports reporting---> ESPiN. Do the Manziels have the resources to fight them?


And for those who forget, ESPN is Disney.

As in $42 billion in 2012 revenue Disney.

Every dollar the entire Manziel family ever made is no more than a zit on the arse of what Disney made last year. They give zero fricks about pissing off little Johnny and his family.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 10:20 am
Posted by betweenthebara
nowhere
Member since May 2013
6183 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:24 am to
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speaking of JFF..Todd McShay said on the PF show today that JFF was grading at a 3rd rounder and that is not taking anything into consideration with his off field issues. Just based on talent from one year. With that being said you guys may be stuck with him for another year after this one if he does not get ruled ineligible?


Im not sure if you want me to believe this is a bad thing? If jff plays year three of his eligibility look out, that's the year they win the sec and natty. I don't think it happens this year.
Posted by JakeMongoose
Montgomery, Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
56 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:47 am to
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They certainly have all the resources in the known universe.


Posted by bama my heart
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Member since Mar 2007
1293 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 10:59 am to
I really don't care if this kid is suspended or not. I did at first. I didn't want it to happen especially before the Bama game. I don't want my tickets to mean nothing, but now, I'm really sick of this kid getting away with everything, and doing things that other players can't do. We're all about 100% sure that he took the money, and he didn't even need it, where some other kid that is playing by the rules and could really use the money for himself and his family gets squat.
If Little Johnny gets away with this what kind of message are they sending out to the other players.
If they all start getting payed, they will no longer work together as a team, but will be selfish and out there playing for themselves and not their school.
Posted by evan_aggie
Austin, Texas
Member since Aug 2013
129 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 11:02 am to
Cracks me up with all of the talk and tremendous coverage on ESPN as if this is a done deal and he is guilty.

Everything up until this point, has been speculation and "allegations". ESPN has been shameless in putting out whatever the hell they want (along with Rovell and Schad) and then end their tripe with, ", allegedly".

Did he take money? Maybe...maybe not. Did Nate take money? Maybe...maybe not. The fact is...not a single damn person has come forward with evidence. Supposedly there is a video that Schad has seen. That's too bad...no one else has, and so we're supposed to take his word for it and his interpretation of what may have or not have been said on it.

Give me and the NCAA some hard evidence and not pure headline speculation, and then I'll throw him under the bus.

Until then, GTFO. *Mic drop*.

=)
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3716 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 11:04 am to
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I'm really sick of this kid getting away with everything, and doing things that other players can't do


You cant possibly be this naive...

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where some other kid that is playing by the rules and could really use the money for himself and his family gets squa


So you are mad at him for taking advantage of a situation he was presented with? That would be like asking a millonaire to stop making so much money because there is a man working at McDonalds that could use it more than you...

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If Little Johnny gets away with this what kind of message are they sending out to the other players.


Make sure if you do some illegal you lawyer up and hide the trail.

There is a whole lot of butthurt in this post...
Posted by JakeMongoose
Montgomery, Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
56 posts
Posted on 8/16/13 at 11:07 am to
In a perfect world, JFF plays, gets humiliated at home by Bama (possibly starts drinking at halftime and never really stops), TAMU loses by double digits, goes on to lead TAMU to a 11-1 regular season record, then the NCAA hammers them and makes them forfeit their wins for the season. JFF says frick y'all, goes pro, gets drafted in the fourth round and has a Tebowesque career for a few years before getting kicked to the curb. Daddy sues the NFL because they have all the resources in the known universe.

But I haven't really given it that much thought.
This post was edited on 8/16/13 at 11:12 am
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