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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3716 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:09 pm to
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At least he capitalized!


FIFY
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
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Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
34927 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:11 pm to
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In the words of Lee Corso, “not so fast my friend.” The State of Texas passed legislation in 1987 that could hold the autograph hounds liable for their actions if they paid Manziel for his autograph in violation of NCAA legislation. Section 131.004 of the Texas Civil Practice and Remedies Code states “a person who violates a rule of a national collegiate athletic association adopted by this chapter is liable for damages in an action brought by an institution if (1) the person knew or reasonably should have know that a rule was violated; and (2) the violation of the rule is a contributing factor to disciplinary action taken by the national collegiate athletic association against the institution or a student at the institution.” This would give Texas A&M University the authority to file suit against the autograph hounds if it or Manziel receives punishment from the NCAA. Accordingly, pursuant to Sections 131.006 and 131.007 of the Texas Civil Practice and Remedies Code, Texas A&M University's damages may include “lost television revenues and lost ticket sales of regular season and post-season athletic events” and “reasonable attorney’s fees and costs.” Certainly, if Manziel is not on the field for the Aggies, there could be substantial losses in revenue.

In short, autograph hounds might want to consider how loudly they express their purported shortcomings and alleged payments to Manziel. There is a Texas statute that can provide a hammer for their alleged actions.

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Not sure this is relevant if none of this took place in Texas. Hard time enforcing Texas laws in Florida and Alabama.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63238 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:14 pm to
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Why do so many of you aggies come on this board and not claim to be aggie fans in your profile? Is it so you can brag about A&M and not get fingered for being a fanboy?


Lol sidewalker is all mad and confused about the logo thing
Posted by fooz
DFW
Member since Sep 2011
886 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:16 pm to
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Not sure this is relevant if none of this took place in Texas. Hard time enforcing Texas laws in Florida and Alabama.


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This should apply to deals done anywhere assuming that the specific brokers at issue have offered and/or sold memorabilia on the internet to people in Texas. If they've ever sold anything in Texas (not just Johnny's stuff), then they've "enjoyed the privileges and benefits of conducting business in Texas" which makes them subject to personal jurisdiction here. Assuming that the broker neither lives in Texas nor maintains an office in Texas, then A&M could sue them in Brazos County state court, serve them outside of Texas, and require them to defend themselves in our backyard.
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3716 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:17 pm to
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TigerBait2008


Posted by Sargentwinslow9
Member since Aug 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:27 pm to
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if you pussy's hadn't fled the Big12

We fled to the best conference in America to kick arse. Meanwhile, you got taken to the woodshed by OU, who we beat like a red headed stepchild in the cotton bowl. You=our bitch at this point
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 1:29 pm
Posted by laxtonto
Member since Mar 2011
2740 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:28 pm to
How does this work?

The act that breaks the NCAA rules is the paying for signatures, not the selling of the merchandise. If the signatures are procured outside of Texas how is this even applicable?

Selling memorabilia by a non-athlete is not a NCAA punishable offense. Signing items and receive cash for them are. No where does it include a clause against profiting within the State of Texas by the breaking of a NCAA rule. If the act of signing was not done in Texas I am at a loss how standing can be given due to the lack of a violation within the state of Texas.

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Section 131.004 of the Texas Civil Practice and Remedies Code states “a person who violates a rule of a national collegiate athletic association adopted by this chapter is liable for damages in an action brought by an institution if (1) the person knew or reasonably should have know that a rule was violated; and (2) the violation of the rule is a contributing factor to disciplinary action taken by the national collegiate athletic association against the institution or a student at the institution.”


It would be a fun argument to see happen from both sides of the issue, but to me it seems like somewhat of a stretch.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
26464 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:28 pm to
Damn....un stickied and people grab this off page 2 ;(
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33750 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:29 pm to
sounds like a bag of worms that still leads to JFF guilty.

u mad?
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21755 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:29 pm to
I noticed this thread has been unstickied and I haven't read anything about the topic since the day it hit. Can someone give me some cliffs about whats going on and what we should expect?
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33750 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:31 pm to
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Can someone give me some cliffs about whats going on and what we should expect?

JFF was paid

aTm fans are searching under every rock to find blame/excuses....well really anything to deflect

they be mad

/thread
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31890 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Not sure this is relevant if none of this took place in Texas. Hard time enforcing Texas laws in Florida and Alabama.
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This should apply to deals done anywhere assuming that the specific brokers at issue have offered and/or sold memorabilia on the internet to people in Texas. If they've ever sold anything in Texas (not just Johnny's stuff), then they've "enjoyed the privileges and benefits of conducting business in Texas" which makes them subject to personal jurisdiction here. Assuming that the broker neither lives in Texas nor maintains an office in Texas, then A&M could sue them in Brazos County state court, serve them outside of Texas, and require them to defend themselves in our backyard.


Dig, dig, dig, dig ------> Y'all are faster than a cat covering up shite.

I don't understand why in the world aTm administration would want to use their time and resources to pursue such a lawsuit?

Either JFF plays or he doesn't, period. aTm/Sumlin will want to move the frick on after this current shitstorm is over.

Maybe I've gotten to wrong impression of aTm. But they just don't come across as the kind of program that would want to waste an ounce of their time on anything related to JFF once he's moved on to the greener, more lucrative pastures of the NFL. They'll thank him for what he did, and move on to building their future in the SEC.

Sumlin doesn't seem like the kind of coach that would support a program that acted like an ambulance chaser. Going after money from sleezy brokers that enticed his star QB into sitting down and signing thousands of items on multiple occasions.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:32 pm to
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Not sure this is relevant if none of this took place in Texas. Hard time enforcing Texas laws in Florida and Alabama.


Full Faith and Credit...
Posted by Sargentwinslow9
Member since Aug 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:32 pm to
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u mad?


About stealing your recruits? About winning the heisman? About having a shot at the NC this year? I'll tell you what Im not mad about. You taints having another average season, like you've had every year since Colt left
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3716 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:33 pm to
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I noticed this thread has been unstickied and I haven't read anything about the topic since the day it hit. Can someone give me some cliffs about whats going on and what we should expect?


Still waiting on some proof of some sort of money exchange. Seems the NCAA is taking its time. Hope this gets resolved sooner rather than later. Would hope for some fireworks to go off on 9-13-13.
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 1:35 pm
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
33750 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:34 pm to
Well us "taints" are gonna beat ya'll this year.

Oh wait, ya'll are scared to play us anymore.
Posted by 3andOut
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2013
3716 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:36 pm to
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Oh wait, ya'll are scared to play us anymore.


Scared? HA! We'd sit our starters after half. Mack Brown is garbage the sooner you realize this the better. But dont worry when we finish stealing all your recruits the real record will start to reflect how shitty of a coach he is. Mack Brown will be gone within 5 years.
This post was edited on 8/15/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted by TaxmanMSU
a glasscase of emotion
Member since Oct 2012
4217 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:37 pm to
Thanks God. Unstickied, ready to fall into the oblivion of WHO THE PHUCK CARES.
Posted by Sargentwinslow9
Member since Aug 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/15/13 at 1:37 pm to
Last year: Us>OU>you...

And this year would be different because? Keep talking about how scared we are. You program is average in a shitty conference, we're a top 3 team in the best conference on earth. Suck a bag of weiners
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