re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

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Here is how A&M and Sumlin should/better handle this case.

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While I have no idea if it's true for all athletic departments, at A&M, coaches are not part of the process with regards to NCAA violations. Coaches handle their sport. If a player violates team rules, the coach handles it internally.

But if a player breaks an NCAA rule, the investigation and punishment are handled by the compliance department. These guys do not report to the coaches and mostly are considered the enemy. There is a reason Paul Manziel was pissed with them. And just like when outside auditors suggest to IA that there is a problem within a group, they don't go to the manager of that group to suggest punishment. It's a normal controls process.

I'm sure Sumlin is being made aware of findings or lack of findings, but he's not really part of the process here.

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TAMU will , WILL, WILL get hammered by the NCAA, which is why the 1st alternative I set forth above is the way to go.

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As long as A&M follows the process outlined by the NCAA, they will suffer no repercussions whatsoever.

Ohio St got nothing in the Pryor case til the coverup came out and the broker was an OSU booster ffs. Okie St got no penalties in the Dez Bryant case. In both of those cases, the investigation was ongoing while they played games. The NCAA does not hold it's member institutions to a clairvoyant standard. There is either concrete evidence of wrong-doing and he gets suspended or there is not and he plays. All the bellyaching and faux advice isn't going to change that.

Sips gon' sip

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Aggies remember when you criticized OSU and Pryor?

What question?

I don't know who that is, but yes.

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Looks like he's done, finished.

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Manziel Disease

NCAA Investigation Process

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During the daylong exercise, NCAA enforcement staffers guided reporters through the steps of an investigation process that typically spans 10 to 11 months. The process was familiar to many, if not all, of the scribes in attendance. It shared similarities — establishing the credibility of the information and of the information’s source, strategically planning out interview sequences, etc. — to the ones they employ when conducting investigations in their own line of work.

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But there were a few striking differences. For example, NCAA investigators cannot use information from a confidential or anonymous source to support an allegation or to prove a violation occurred. Such information can only be used as the ignition point of an investigation.

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Wait the NCAA cannot use confidential/anonymous sources to prove allegations?

Joe Schad is on Finebaum right now. He has confirmed to me that he is still a dumbass

I think that it was the former head of the NCAA's enforcement dept, on ESPN this morning, who said it was his opinion that this would not be Sumlin's decision. Anything like a suspension would more than likely come down from the university's president. And that is who the NCAA's wll be talking to, not a HC. And, most certainly, the Manzeil's,with all their experiences with litigation, will never file suit against anyone. Can you imagine JM having to sit down & answer under oath all the questions he would get in depositions? And he would be asked bout the role of Uncle Nate,who would promptly receive a depo subpoena as well. Not happening.