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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:31 pm to
Paying them a little bit is not going to stop this stuff from happening. These kids aren't hurting for money while they are in college. They just can't all afford to get court side NBA tickets and drive a Mercedes with new rims.

If you had given Johnny an extra 500 dollars a month do you think this wouldn't have happened?
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:32 pm to
The dialogue in the video is likely enough to incriminate. And this story is still very young. Who knows what else comes out.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 5:33 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29311 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

I doubt A&M wants to go through an entire season of Joe Schad stories.


If we win a natty, zero fricks will be given.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

TutHillTiger


You're trying, dude, but no one wants to read all that shite. Paraphrase. Also, make your point. You've posted like 4 chapters of something. We aren't reading it. what point are you trying to make? Tell us that then we'll talk.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
21300 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:33 pm to
The broker has already recorded one encounter. It is logical to think he recorded the payment encounter as well.

He's also shown the video, for no financial gain as ESPN wouldn't pay up. I don't want to be at 9-0 and then have this guy drop the Fist of God right into our proverbial nutsack.

Right now it's about risk management.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:34 pm to
Or what else the NCAA has for that matter
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14924 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

No. Kids get a FREE COLLEGE EDUCATION.




They do. And some random arse organization is literally making millions off them too. (Typing literally makes me think of that great alter).


I don't think there is anything wrong with evenly distributing half of that income, or even all of it among the student athletes for every sport. $500 a semester isn't shite. I am sure it would be gas money at most.
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
26344 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

If we win a natty, zero fricks will be given.
said Gene Chizek.

Wonder whatever happened to that guy?
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:34 pm to
quote:

Paying them a little bit is not going to stop this stuff from happening. These kids aren't hurting for money while they are in college. They just can't all afford to get court side NBA tickets and drive a Mercedes with new rims. If you had given Johnny an extra 500 dollars a month do you think this wouldn't have happened?


Exactly. Not only are the getting a college education, but they are also getting room and board paid for.

If you want to live off campus, the school will cut you a check for the cost of how much the room/board portion of the scholarship is for. This is enough to cover rent & food, especially if you end up sharing a place with other people.

If the players go hungry, it is their fault for spending that money on things other than what it was intended for. I know guys who would spend their off campus checks on alcohol and strip clubs and a few days after getting the check would be back to begging others for money so they can eat.

NCAA athletes are well taken care of.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14924 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

If you had given Johnny an extra 500 dollars a month do you think this wouldn't have happened?



What about giving players like Trent Richardson that money, who had 3 girls back home? More athletes are in his position that JFF. I just don't even see how the NCAA can call themselves a non-profit organization.
Posted by The_Joker
Winter Park, Fl
Member since Jan 2013
16355 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:36 pm to
Not to mention their dining halls with unlimited free food
Posted by goldennugget
NIL Ruined College Sports
Member since Jul 2013
26376 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

I don't think there is anything wrong with evenly distributing half of that income, or even all of it among the student athletes for every sport. $500 a semester isn't shite. I am sure it would be gas money at most.


They already get that much and more PER MONTH.

You guys act like NCAA athletes don't get didly squat and starve.

Like I said - off campus checks, meal stipends of $36 a day when the campus is closed for holidays, etc., as well as pell grants, clothing checks of $250 a semester, vacation stipends when, for example, teams practice for bowls during the Holidays so they can go home and visit family.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
25025 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3151 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:41 pm to
Athletes eat very well. The new Village dining area at auburn had an all you can eat side...
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27678 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:41 pm to
What the hell is wrong with some of you aggies? From Texags:

quote:

If story is true, a win win solution

quote:

Everybody, (pundits, SEC, A&M and college football in general) says it is best if JFF plays this upcoming year. If Johnny did do as alleged by these shady sources, and if there is a smoking gun to be uncovered, Our Administration and the new Law Team can negotiate a deal with the NCAA where JFF apologizes for breaking the rules, and is punished by having to forgo his last year of eligibility. In essence, stripping away his first red shirt year. Faces saved everywhere with the solution. NCAA can say they administered punishment for a rules violation. A very significant punishment, the equivalent of a seasons worth of suspension.


Any aggies wanna speak on this?


ETA: LINK
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 5:43 pm
Posted by NATidefan
Two hours North of Birmingham
Member since Dec 2008
36776 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:41 pm to
I'm not saying they shouldn't give them the overflow, but by time that is divided up across the board to all NCAA athletes then its not going to be enough to prevent any of this type of thing from occurring.
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
26657 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:41 pm to
quote:

Like I said - off campus checks, meal stipends of $36 a day when the campus is closed for holidays, etc., as well as pell grants, clothing checks of $250 a semester, vacation stipends when, for example, teams practice for bowls during the Holidays so they can go home and visit family.

Like I said earlier the average at UGA between Pell Grants & housing allowances is $1300/mth..
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28370 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:42 pm to
Yeah, 2 days and already 3 separate brokers in 3 separate cities have spoke up, one with a video that ESPN has watched (a video that at the very least confirms to everyone that there is merit to these allegations). IMO, there's more coming and the NCAA will get someone to talk, if they haven't already.

IMO, the NCAA probably already has enough to warrant a suspension, and is just building their case...and once they've built it, they'll try to catch Manziel (or A&M) in a lie....because if they catch him in a lie, then none of the other stuff really even matters anymore...because he'll be done without the NCAA even having to prove the other stuff.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 5:48 pm
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31877 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:42 pm to
quote:

They may rally around him like the Auburn player's did during the Newton investigation.

You know, I actually find myself amazed at how JFF has put Cam into perspective in my eyes over the last few days.

While I'll admit that Cam came across as incredibly smug, at least he didn't radiate this aura that it was all about him. That everything was about him, the way Manziel does.

Honestly, I can't see Manziel having earned the kind of goodwill from his teammates that Cam had when he was under fire.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14924 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 5:42 pm to
Why not give the student athletes the hundreds of millions of dollars the NCAA earn? Who else does that money belong to? Where should the $837.7 million in income go to? Cause with the exception of creating scholarships for the needy or donating that money, no one else deserves it.
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