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re: As the jar cracks - Johnny Manziel's downfall is upon us

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Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:05 am to
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you've seen the schedule threads, haven't you?


yea but i thought that was becuase the SEC office was in birmingham. More conspiracy whining than rumor whining. I wish I was inuit so i could have a 100 different words for the different types of whining lsu fans do, you know, like they do for the different types of snow.
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 8:06 am
Posted by Tigerfan29
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:06 am to
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Whining masked by baseless rumors.


Pretty much
Posted by cyde
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31877 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:07 am to
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like they do for the different types of snow.

The yellow type -- don't eat it.
Posted by Skinnydoc
Georgia
Member since Jan 2013
31 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:08 am to
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Oh, look. A Sports by Brooks link. You must be really smart.


Nah, just trying to help you out.

Figured if I linked it you can bookmark it for later to:

A. Look up the "big words" you may have trouble with

B. print out the pics to put in your "Bama Room"
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
24508 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:22 am to
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As a LSU fan, I hope that he can just pay back the money or donate it to some charity and be cleared to pay. If Auburn can get away with out bidding Miss. State for Cam Newton and coming into La. and buying players away from LSU.



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links?



LINK

That proof enough? Huh? Well, is it?
This post was edited on 8/6/13 at 8:23 am
Posted by joe.liberst
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2012
1002 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:23 am to
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It will be interesting to see if Johnny and his manager open up their bank records... that saved us.. as long as it was all cash and there is no paper trail, they will be OK. If Johnny has a 5 figure unexplained deposit around that same time, his parents better be able to show where the money came from.

The NCAA doesn't have subpoena power.

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
19829 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:30 am to
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The NCAA doesn't have subpoena power.


they may gain it in discovery since TAMU has retained lawyers in this matter. Would be contingent on somebody actually filing a suit however.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:31 am to
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The NCAA doesn't have subpoena power.

They have the power to declare Uncle Douche an agent, though, which I would be sincerely concerned about at this point.

I have a sneaking suspicion that his role in this will come more and more into play.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
18880 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:35 am to
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The NCAA doesn't have subpoena power.


ask Georgia Tech about what happens when you don't cooperate and become obstructionist.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:38 am to
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ask Georgia Tech about what happens when you don't cooperate and become obstructionist.

This. You don't have to give them anything. By the same token, they don't have to let you play.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:51 am to
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This. You don't have to give them anything. By the same token, they don't have to let you play


exactly, if you fall under the NCAA umbrella, you must release any info they request, otherwise you will no longer be under the NCAA umbrella. right now they are trying to say the assistant falls under that, since he was an employee.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:54 am to
The NCAA does need subpoena power but they say for us to close this investigation early we need to see the bank records and if not they can drag this out and rule him in eligible until then.

But the family is smart and already dropping the Newton card. Johnny did not know this was all his best friend so he will be in the clear.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:56 am to
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right now they are trying to say the assistant falls under that, since he was an employee.

By demanding payment for autographs, the NCAA may also declare the assistant an agent.

Care to wager whether Uncle Nate is registered with the state of Texas as a sports agent?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:56 am to
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But the family is smart and already dropping the Newton card. Johnny did not know this was all his best friend so he will be in the clear.

kind of hard to play that card when you complete the contract by doing something you normally wouldn't.

Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19140 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:57 am to
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I have a sneaking suspicion that his role in this will come more and more into play.

This wouldn't surprise me. But whether anything actually happens besides allegations and speculation remains to be seen. The timing of this thing, since it allegedly occurred back in January, makes me wonder whether it's more about television ratings and manipulating odds in Vegas than anything else...kind of like ESPN's version of "wag the dog"...but I guess we'll see.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:57 am to
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But the family is smart and already dropping the Newton card. Johnny did not know this was all his best friend so he will be in the clear.

I'm pretty certain they closed that loophole.

Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:59 am to
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I'm pretty certain they closed that loophole.


this
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 8:59 am to
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this


don't tell darkhorse
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:00 am to
You're back!

Sucks we never got that drink.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 8/6/13 at 9:01 am to
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kind of hard to play that card when you complete the contract by doing something you normally wouldn't.

Seriously. He and Uncle Agent met a memorabilia broker... at an airport... in South Florida... after Uncle Agent told another broker months earlier that autographs held a price tag... and signed HUNDREDS of autographs...


...and "didn't know?"

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