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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by blufus
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:15 pm to
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That means the home still has mortgage against it or the home never had a mortgage filed against it.



Damn right.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:28 pm to
Now, let me ask you this. What would happen if you could show a pay-off, but a release could not be found?
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:36 pm to
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Now, let me ask you this. What would happen if you could show a pay-off, but a release could not be found?


This would mean the Mortgage Company that was paid off never filed to release the property, and the lien would still show in the probate office, Before you could close the property the property would have to be released by the Mortgage Company, meaning if it was paid off 15 years ago and was never released, then if you tried to sell the house or re-mortgage the house the release would need to be filed with current date - would not be back dated
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:37 pm to
Yep. So that is how a mortgage paid off 15 years ago could have a release of a few months ago...
Posted by chilld28
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:41 pm to
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This would mean the Mortgage Company that was paid off never filed to release the property, and the lien would still show in the probate office, Before you could close the property the property would have to be released by the Mortgage Company, meaning if it was paid off 15 years ago and was never released, then if you tried to sell the house or re-mortgage the house the release would need to be filed with current date - would not be back dated
This exact thing happened to my parents. They paid off their mortgage and years later wanted to do a re-fi to do some renovations. They went with another bank and when they were working up the loan, they realized that the Colonial never released it to the courthouse to let them know it was settled. And yes, I realize the humor with it being Colonial
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:44 pm to
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Yep. So that is how a mortgage paid off 15 years ago could have a release of a few months ago...


This is not unusual for small mortgage companies to fail to release a lien, especially when they are bought and sold, and the company changes hands several times. I'm not sure how long Metro Bank has been around, but I can almost guarantee the Mortgage did not originate with Metro Bank. It is also a nightmare to get a release when a company sells to another and the name changes.
Posted by attheua
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:46 pm to
Some legal eagles on Facebook are saying brook's document is a fake, or at least not the ordinary form for such a notice.
This post was edited on 4/18/11 at 11:47 pm
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:47 pm to
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This is not unusual for small mortgage companies to fail to release a lien, especially when they are bought and sold, and the company changes hands several times. I'm not sure how long Metro Bank has been around, but I can almost guarantee the Mortgage did not originate with Metro Bank. It is also a nightmare to get a release when a company sells to another and the name changes.



This is why I was amused that Brooks ran with just the release. He will have a shite ton of egg on his face if this was a failure to record situation. Guy should have done his due diligence before throwing just the release out there.
This post was edited on 4/18/11 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:49 pm to
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Some legal eagles on Facebook are saying brook's document is a fake, or at least not the ordinary form for such a notice.


Do you have a link I can tell you if it is the correct form used to release a lien. As far as what is typed on the form that could be doctored, but it would have a stamp from the probate office and date, time that the property was released
Posted by chilld28
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:57 pm to
Yea it looks legit, also shows the date of August 7, 2000 this is the date the mortgage was recorded with the probate office. I hate to say this but he could have not paid off the loan 15 years ago when the loan originated 11 years ago.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/18/11 at 11:59 pm to
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Yea it looks legit, also shows the date of August 7, 2000 this is the date the mortgage was recorded with the probate office. I hate to say this but he could have not paid off the loan 15 years ago when the loan originated 11 years ago.


At this point, the release that has been posted by Brooks has not be fully attributed to being his primary residence.
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:00 am to
The thing is that you can't prove any wrong doing with a release of lien, mortgages are paid off every day. Looks like all Brooks is doing here is trying to keep the story going.
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:04 am to
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At this point, the release that has been posted by Brooks has not be fully attributed to being his primary residence.


Thats true - This would not be hard to find out, all these records are available to the public, if Brooks got this he could easily find out if this was on his primary address. Not hard to connect the dots, Kind of makes me wonder if he already knows but decided to leave that part out.
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:05 am to
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Thats true - This would not be hard to find out, all these records are available to the public, if Brooks got this he could easily find out if this was on his primary address. Not hard to connect the dots, Kind of makes me wonder if he already knows but decided to leave that part out.


And it could also explain how UA was able to clear it in a day..
Posted by Crimson Mafia IIIX
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:10 am to
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And it could also explain how UA was able to clear it in a day..


I agree as much as Jeffrey Lee wants his story to look legit, if this was his primary residence that was paid off, Im sure we would have already heard about this, and the same with SBB story, the fact that if this was his primary address would make Brooks story even better. You wouldn't just leave that part out, unless it wasn't his primary address.
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 12:12 am
Posted by NBamaAlum
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 12:14 am to
JLee runs with something he heard from the coach. Brooks picks it up. It is out in the public forum before they have a firm grasp of the facts. At that point, you have to charge forward. Peaches said, paraphrasing of course, "my house has been paid off for 15 years!" All it would take would be for one person to spend a little time at the probate office, and the whole deal is revealed...but at this point, all we have is a release that isn't attributed to any particular property. If Brooks really wanted to bust Peaches, he would find out if this release is his residence...not a rental property.
Posted by plutonium55
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 6:44 am to
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I like how when someone is arguing on this board about this shite...and it starts going in a direction they don't like, all the sudden, they become an inside source with knowledge of improprieties.

Sorry though, plutonium, you are full of shite. If you or any other Bama poster on this board had actual dirt on AU, you would carry it in a balloon up your arse if that's what it took to get it in the hands of someone that mattered.


The only thing full of shite are fans that think their program is the cleanest in the SEC while it is hardly that. I hope they dig into the Calloway situation and show what all went on including his recruitment by aubrun.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 7:04 am to
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JLee runs with something he heard from the coach. Brooks picks it up. It is out in the public forum before they have a firm grasp of the facts. At that point, you have to charge forward. Peaches said, paraphrasing of course, "my house has been paid off for 15 years!" All it would take would be for one person to spend a little time at the probate office, and the whole deal is revealed...but at this point, all we have is a release that isn't attributed to any particular property. If Brooks really wanted to bust Peaches, he would find out if this release is his residence...not a rental property.


You mean members of the sports internet media might possibly be just throwing mud on the wall and seeing if it will stick? Or not even caring if it sticks or not but merely trying to drive up traffic to their web site?

My god... I am shocked.

And amazed.

Who would have ever thought these kinds of people would do anything like that?
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/19/11 at 7:43 am to
Just jumping here guys and not trying to start shite but just asking a question from what I think I am seeing brought up as a defense to peaches.

I keep seeing stuff about this is not "his" house or primary residence, so there is not a problem, since this could be one of peaches rentals. But does it really matter if it was his house or a rental? Besides peaches statement that "my house has been paid off for 15 years", is what is being questioned. If any house, rental or not, was paid off by someone as an enticement, then there might be some issues to deal with.

And Plutonium55, keep grasping, the HS coach angle aint gonna cut it. Is this what the ATPB is telling you? Presser @ 4 or is it 3 weeks?
This post was edited on 4/19/11 at 7:45 am
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