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re: As The Capstone Crumbles: Rumored compliance issue at Alabama per Y Sources
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:58 pm to TiggerWoods
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:58 pm to TiggerWoods
I'm too tired to read it that closely, but yes we could all be fukt.
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Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:59 pm to JustGetItRight
quote:no shite? I've got some reading to do. BRB
No, I think it was the same guy. Based on the Tuscaloosa News story, it sounds like Person set up the meeting and the whole thing is recorded.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 9:59 pm to JustGetItRight
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Unlike Person, he wasn't charged.
Yet.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:00 pm to phaz
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Last I checked, no one from Bama has been arrested.
That could change and even if it doesn't that is because our guy was so greedy he kept all the money. Otherwise, he did exactly the same thing.
This isn't the time to be chunking stones.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:00 pm to phaz
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Last I checked, no one from Bama has been arrested.
Yet. But one of your suits, suits, resigned. He didn't resign just because. There may not have been criminal misdoings, but that certainly points to NCAA stuff....at the very least. You don't step down if laws/rules weren't broken.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:02 pm to MrAUTigers
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Yet. But one of your suits, suits, resigned. He didn't resign just because. There may not have been criminal misdoings, but that certainly points to NCAA stuff....at the very least. You don't step down if laws/rules weren't broken.
Our "suit" (or basketball administrator) who was hired directly from the literal NCAA enforcement office.
Have you read the thread? It sounds like he at least attempted to get involved in some capacity but either did it at a time the FBI wasn't there or didn't finish the job. It's literally in black and white in the report.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:03 pm to MrAUTigers
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You don't step down if laws/rules weren't broken.
Believe it or not, his greed MAY have saved both him and Bama.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Our "suit" (or basketball administrator) who was hired directly from the literal NCAA enforcement office.
What does that have to do with anything?
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Have you read the thread? It sounds like he at least attempted to get involved in some capacity but either did it at a time the FBI wasn't there or didn't finish the job. It's literally in black and white in the report.
I have read that they have him on tape talking with the FBI informant.
Again, he didn't just resign for no reason. How would bama know he had anything to do with this mess? He just graciously told them out of the kindness of his own heart?
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:22 pm to MrAUTigers
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How would bama know he had anything to do with this mess?
The overwhelming number of lawyers in this state come from Alabama. The FBI hires tons of agents with law degrees. any one of them could know the identities of all the people involved and delivered a discreet message.
Also, the Universities don't hate each other nearly as much as the fans. AU could well have leaned it from Person and told Bama themselves.
The guy may have also confessed to them. He's on a FBI recording. It isn't like he was going to go undetected for much longer.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:27 pm to MrAUTigers
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Yet. But one of your suits, suits, resigned. He didn't resign just because. There may not have been criminal misdoings, but that certainly points to NCAA stuff....at the very least. You don't step down if laws/rules weren't broken.
Not necessarily. There is a legitimate scenario at play here where he is fired for unethical and potentially illegal behavior that does not violate NCAA rules.
If the advisor paid the Bama admin to influence a player to sign with the advisor on a future date, but he never paid the player or his family to do so, that is both unethical, and illegal, but not an NCAA violation. It is not an NCAA violation to recommend a future advisor.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:28 pm to MrAUTigers
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I have read that they have him on tape talking with the FBI informant.
Talking with an informant doesn't get you arrested.
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Again, he didn't just resign for no reason.
No, he resigned because he was pretty clearly going to be disclosed at some point as "SM-1" or whatever it is. Hell, our people may have already put those pieces together. Better to do it now on his terms than wait, potentially fvck us and then potentially never get a job again. It is clear he wasn't going to just sit around whistling at the graveyard and this was going to pass over. He saw the report, he knew he was a dead man walking.
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How would bama know he had anything to do with this mess? He just graciously told them out of the kindness of his own heart?
When the walls are closing in you generally start thinking about the end game.
This post was edited on 9/27/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:31 pm to Monticello
To simplify, the key difference between AU and Bama is that we know that Persons used some of the bribe money to pay two Auburn players for their future signature with the advisor. As of right now, we know the Bama admin was paid to influence a player, but there has yet to be an allegation that Collin Sexton or his family was actually paid to do so.
As others have said Kobie Baker's greed in keeping all the bribe money to himself may very well save Alabama.
As others have said Kobie Baker's greed in keeping all the bribe money to himself may very well save Alabama.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:32 pm to Monticello
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To simplify, the key difference between AU and Bama is that we know that Persons used some of the bribe money to pay two Auburn players for their future signature with the advisor. As of right now, we know the Bama admin was paid to influence a player, but there has yet to be an allegation that Collin Sexton or his family was actually paid to do so. As others have said Kobie Baker's greed in keeping all the bribe money to himself may very well save Alabama.
Greed, second thoughts, transaction made off the radar of the FBI, etc.
Or, could be they know all about it but are crossing t's and dotting i's and will release additional documents soon that prove it out.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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transaction made off the radar of the FBI
I think you can take this one off the table. If the FBI goes digging and money changed hands they find it.
When you are interviewed by the FBI, before they ever ask you a question they inform you that lying to an FBI agent is a federal offense punishable by up to 5 years in prison. Trust me when I tell you that gets your clear and undivided attention. You think really hard to make sure you don't misspeak. If they talked to Sexton's family and they took money, take it to the bank that they told the FBI. Now only time will tell whether or not it happened.
Posted on 9/27/17 at 10:48 pm to JustGetItRight
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When you are interviewed by the FBI, before they ever ask you a question they inform you that lying to an FBI agent is a federal offense punishable by up to 5 years in prison. Trust me when I tell you that gets your clear and undivided attention. You think really hard to make sure you don't misspeak. If they talked to Sexton's family and they took money, take it to the bank that they told the FBI. Now only time will tell whether or not it happened.
Yea - I'm going to start trying to use that tactic in audits.
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