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Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:59 pm to RT1941
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:59 pm to RT1941
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At the end of the day, this whole thing is nothing more than a damn slave sale. Parents shopping their kids to the highest bidder, AAU coaches promoting the studs on the auction block, agents acting as slave traders, runners acting as pimps and shoe companies acting as plantation owners with the ca$h
I have no problem with all of this because the "slaves" get paid too. The NCAA created this monster fwiw
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Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:02 pm to lsufball19
quote:We are in agreement.
I have no problem with all of this because the "slaves" get paid too. The NCAA created this monster fwiw
The very fact that they are NOW trying to unearth the "facts" and trying to get to bottom of his crap that's been filthy dirty for decades is laughable. It took the FBI cases to bring this nasty cesspool to the surface and Emmertt/NCAA has no choice but to act like they give a shite.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:03 pm to RT1941
If the NCAA would get off its high horse and let student athletes get paid, this wouldn't be an issue.
They've created this quagmire. Period.
They've created this quagmire. Period.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:08 pm to ibldprplgld
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If the NCAA would get off its high horse and let student athletes get paid, this wouldn't be an issue.
Just let the athletes make money off their own likeness, and i don't know, allow them to get a fricking job if they want. The cream will rise to the top and they won't have to deal with Title IX issues. It's just a joke that they try to pretend and uphold this theory of an "amateur athlete." The IOC got off their high horses decades ago on that front.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:10 pm to lsufball19
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Just let the athletes make money off their own likeness, and i don't know, allow them to get a fricking job if they want. The cream will rise to the top and they won't have to deal with Title IX issues. It's just a joke that they try to pretend and uphold this theory of an "amateur athlete." The IOC got off their high horses decades ago on that front.
THIS!
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:12 pm to ibldprplgld
Do student-athletes have to pay income taxes, social security, health care, etc. like a regular employee?
Do they want to give up their stipend? Are they willing to get paid on a scale? Bench warmers, back-ups, won't get paid what a super star 5* stud gets paid - how will that translate to the locker room? Will those olinemen be willing to protect a 5* QB making bank and getting all the credit?
Oh, don't forget you gots to pay womenz too.
The NCAA is a voluntary organization and as impotent as they are, every damn member bends over backwards for them in fear of repercussions.
Do they want to give up their stipend? Are they willing to get paid on a scale? Bench warmers, back-ups, won't get paid what a super star 5* stud gets paid - how will that translate to the locker room? Will those olinemen be willing to protect a 5* QB making bank and getting all the credit?
Oh, don't forget you gots to pay womenz too.
The NCAA is a voluntary organization and as impotent as they are, every damn member bends over backwards for them in fear of repercussions.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:14 pm to RT1941
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Do student-athletes have to pay income taxes, social security, health care, etc. like a regular employee?
Do they want to give up their stipend? Are they willing to get paid on a scale? Bench warmers, back-ups, won't get paid what a super star 5* stud gets paid - how will that translate to the locker room? Will those olinemen be willing to protect a 5* QB making bank and getting all the credit?
Oh, don't forget you gots to pay womenz too.
Schools would never be able to afford to pay kids directly. But I see no problem with not having rules preventing them from receiving money from outside third parties. And if they want to deal with paying self-employment taxes, social security, etc from whatever money they make, then that's on the student athlete not to have the IRS knocking on their doors for an audit
There are very few student athletes that could actually profit on their likeness. The vast majority need the advantages they get as a student athlete. I don't think lifting restrictions on accepting money from others would need to change any of that.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:35 pm to lsufball19
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please provide me with the provisions of the contract, and I'll give you a very easy legal argument that Wade's attorneys would rip LSU to shreds with if they fired him now.
I’m sure Wade is dying to get deposed in a civil suit.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:35 pm to NYCAuburn
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The FBI only cares about the companies and middle men here.
And Adidas didn't get hurt at all. No fines. No penalties.
One exec was jailed but Adidas itself was unscathed.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:38 pm to RT1941
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It took the FBI cases to bring this nasty cesspool to the surface and Emmertt/NCAA has no choice but to act like they give a shite
They’re going to try their damnedest to act like they care. They don’t care. It’s hard to tell if that will be worse or better for LSU. Does LSU get the brunt of the damage to protect Duke and kU? Or does the NCAA want to make it all go away?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:38 pm to RT1941
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Do student-athletes have to pay income taxes, social security, health care, etc. like a regular employee?
Do they want to give up their stipend? Are they willing to get paid on a scale? Bench warmers, back-ups, won't get paid what a super star 5* stud gets paid - how will that translate to the locker room? Will those olinemen be willing to protect a 5* QB making bank and getting all the credit?
its obvious you didn't read his post.
He didn't say the universities should pay student athletes. Just allow the athletes to profit off of their own likeness. If a local car dealership wants to have a football player do commercial and they give the player a car in return fine. If a restaurant wants to pay a player to do a commercial and pay them every money for doing it fine.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:42 pm to civiltiger07
So I've been working all day.. was there an actual development that caused this bump or is this just the normal mudslinging and trolling?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:43 pm to civiltiger07
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Just allow the athletes to profit off of their own likeness.
Eh. Just let anyone write them a check then. They can set up a paypal and let the fanbase send them money. Hell, they could auction off their signing to the highest bidder. It would be a great spectacle.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:45 pm to LouisvilleKat
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LouisvilleKat
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So I've been working all day
LMAO
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:49 pm to the808bass
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Eh. Just let anyone write them a check then. They can set up a paypal and let the fanbase send them money. Hell, they could auction off their signing to the highest bidder. It would be a great spectacle.
I used to think in kind of that way as well. However, I have changed my position in the last couple years. At the end of the day if a company wants to pay a player $500/month for doing an ad who am I to say they can't do that?
I'm not sure how big of an issue it would be for fans to give money to a player. Most of the money is involved in the recruiting process. I'm not sure how much money fans will give out to a player that they aren't sure is even going to a certain school.
It's for sure a way to work around Title 9.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 3:50 pm to the808bass
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I’m sure Wade is dying to get deposed in a civil suit.
Then I guess LSU should just go ahead and fire him right?
But you do realize that LSU can't fire him and then try to create cause after they fire him through depositions right? That wouldn't exculpate LSU from a wrongful termination suit. It may make Wade look bad, sure, but LSU would still pay in that circumstance. LSU isn't out to get Wade. They're out to protect LSU. Making Wade look bad at a depo and still paying him isn't protecting LSU.
Like I said, if there was a provision in his contract that LSU felt comfortable gave them cause to fire him, they would have done it already. I know exactly what provision guy was referring to. It's intentionally open-ended and discretionary with words like "reasonable". It would be highly arguable in this case and LSU would be idiotic to risk using that provision right now as cause.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:00 pm to civiltiger07
quote:Right, but Momma has to get her cut! If student-athletes get paid straight up for their likeness there are a TON of folks that get left out.
I used to think in kind of that way as well. However, I have changed my position in the last couple years. At the end of the day if a company wants to pay a player $500/month for doing an ad who am I to say they can't do that?
I'm not sure how big of an issue it would be for fans to give money to a player. Most of the money is involved in the recruiting process. I'm not sure how much money fans will give out to a player that they aren't sure is even going to a certain school.
It's for sure a way to work around Title 9.
HS coaches, mentors, legal guardians, AAU coaches, runners, agents, uncles/aunties....they won't stand for losing out on the pay day circuit.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:04 pm to RT1941
I'm guessing you are trolling a bit, but that is more of a reason to allow student athletes to profit from their own likeness.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:10 pm to civiltiger07
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used to think in kind of that way as well. However, I have changed my position in the last couple years. At the end of the day if a company wants to pay a player $500/month for doing an ad who am I to say they can't do that?
I’m not saying anything other than if you’re going to let them “profit off their likeness,” just remove all restrictions around payment. They can sell their autographed photos for $1M and there’s no point in playing that charade.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 4:10 pm to civiltiger07
quote:Not trolling, just facetious to an extent. "IF" the only person to profit was the student-athlete then I'm all for it.
I'm guessing you are trolling a bit, but that is more of a reason to allow student athletes to profit from their own likeness.
But the bottom line is that every single person associated with those student-athletes has their freaking hand out for a money grab.
The parents are the worst, and they don't even give a shite. They know if they have a stud, there will be a pay day. i.e. Chuck Persons (an AU alum) at AU paid the parents (also former AU alum/athletes) to steer their kids away from Auburn and towards an agent. WTH?
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