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Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:33 am to civiltiger07
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did they interact constantly? All I have so far is that one phone conversation is recorded.
If there was one, just one, transcript of a phone call of Gene Chizik talking to anyone on the planet about a "strong arse offer" for Cam Newton this website would be a giant smoldering crater.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:34 am to civiltiger07
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ok, again all we have heard about is 1 (one) conversation.
Do you really believe from those quotes, that is the first and only time they spoke with each other?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:34 am to BrerTiger
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If there was one, just one, transcript of a phone call of Gene Chizik talking to anyone on the planet about a "strong arse offer" for Cam Newton this website would be a giant smoldering crater.
ATPB might have hit 10k pages...instead of 2k
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:35 am to NYCAuburn
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Not in the slightest. If he wasnt a personal friend of his, why did have a lot of interaction with him? Wades job is basketball, so is dawkins, so if they werent friends, but they interacted together constantly, what was that interaction about? basketball, recruiting, etcc? Sounds like business to me...
They have three documented phone calls between each other. That's hardly "constant interaction."
Furthermore, you can talk shop with someone who isn't a friend and not do actual business with them.
So again their friendship status is irrelevant.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:35 am to ibldprplgld
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Richard Lipsey is 100% in Wade's corner. He's an exceptionally wealthy and very well connected man. Founded TAF and is one is LSU's single largest donors.
That would make sense. Did anyone confirm Lipsey was the one dining with Wade?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:37 am to ibldprplgld
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Furthermore, you can talk shop with someone who isn't a friend and not do actual business with them.
Talking shop about your recruits is doing business
Like Brer said Wade is getting clintonesque with his definition of business here. But talking about your recruits with a recruiter/handler is doing business
quote:yeah, no
So again their friendship status is irrelevant.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:37 am to the808bass
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I’d guess
That’s all that needed to be said. You’re speculating and creating your own narrative.
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But pretending the “strong arse offer” is a scholarship is hilarious
Where did I do this?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:38 am to ibldprplgld
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They have three documented phone calls between each other. That's hardly "constant interaction."
See NYCAuburn this is what I was asking for. all you have is speculation.
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Furthermore, you can talk shop with someone who isn't a friend and not do actual business with them.
Happens to me in my job a few times a year.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 10:40 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:38 am to BrerTiger
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That would make sense. Did anyone confirm Lipsey was the one dining with Wade?
No, I didn't mean to suggest Lipsey was the one dining with Wade. He's not on the BOS, but he's very active in everything LSU and he's been an outspoken proponent of Wade through this.
He holds quite a bit of clout when it comes to all things LSU via his political connections and his checkbook.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:40 am to NYCAuburn
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Talking shop about your recruits is doing business
Like Brer said Wade is getting clintonesque with his definition of business here. But talking about your recruits with a recruiter/handler is doing business
It's definitively not unless there's payment for services rendered. You got a link to that?
Otherwise it was just a conversation between two people in the same field.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:41 am to NYCAuburn
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Was he personal friends with Dawkins?
Yes. Dawkins wasn’t a representative of Smart. I haven’t followed the thread on the sec rant, but this has been established long ago.
I am well aware of what Wade likely meant by strong arse offer but it wasn’t an offer of which Dawkins was involved. Smart’s AAU coach, Shannon Forman, was his “handler." shite, this was in the latest yahoo article, since y'all eat up everything that they release.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 10:55 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:42 am to ibldprplgld
quote:I can't help but ask why Richard Lipsey has all the information on Wade? And why Lipsey hasn't relayed all of the information to the LSU AD/Prez/Compliance Deptbr that have been intent on keeping WW down for the last month?
Richard Lipsey is 100% in Wade's corner. He's an exceptionally wealthy and very well connected man. Founded TAF and is one is LSU's single largest donors.
I've no doubt he knows all of LSU's skeletons in the closet and he no doubt has all the information on Wade and Dawkins. If he's coming out so publicly and hard for Wade, I'm inclined to believe Wade will remain at LSU.
And Joe Alleva is 100% in this man's cross hairs.
I mean is Wade choosing to over the head of the entire LSU Administration by meeting and communicating with the big $$ men?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:46 am to ibldprplgld
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Furthermore, you can talk shop with someone who isn't a friend and not do actual business with them.
I will concede it does appear from what we know now that Javonte's handler was not Dawkins and as far as we know Wade may not have ever used Dawkins as a handler.
But he sure as shite talked a lot of shop with Dawkins about the very shady business (however common it is in college sports) they both most definitely were part of.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 10:49 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:47 am to civiltiger07
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Happens to me in my job a few times a year.
You talk about specific prospective customers by name and the structure of the deals with people you don’t do business with who are in the same field? Sounds like something an idiot in operations would get tricked into by a salesman.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:48 am to ibldprplgld
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Otherwise it was just a conversation between two people in the same field.
Agreed.
They were both (along with many others not stupid enough to get caught on a wire) in the racket of hooking kids up with "strong arse offers".
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:52 am to the808bass
we have talked to other companies about working with them. have meeting and lunch and learns and such then when we go to do business their contract requirements stop us from working with them.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:53 am to RT1941
Lipsey is not supportive of Alleva/King in this matter. He has been exceptionally and publicly critical of the LSU administration, and for good reason. Like most LSU fans, he realizes neither one are good for LSU long-term. He seems content to go hard for Wade and letting Alleva have the rope to hang himself. Every day this goes on makes Alleva look even worse if/when Wade is reinstated for no wrongdoing.
It's not a bad idea, as I said, Lipsey is very well connected and his checkbook can backup the things that come out of his mouth. Alleva's mistake here was bowing to the pressure of national sportswriters who have zero control over his job security while neglecting the local people here who do have control over it. In that circle of people, Lipsey is an 800lb gorilla with chainsaw for a penis, and he's irate with Alleva.
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I mean is Wade choosing to over the head of the entire LSU Administration by meeting and communicating with the big $$ men?
It's not a bad idea, as I said, Lipsey is very well connected and his checkbook can backup the things that come out of his mouth. Alleva's mistake here was bowing to the pressure of national sportswriters who have zero control over his job security while neglecting the local people here who do have control over it. In that circle of people, Lipsey is an 800lb gorilla with chainsaw for a penis, and he's irate with Alleva.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:54 am to ibldprplgld
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Wade is reinstated for no wrongdoing.
This is the sort of delusion we enjoy the most.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 10:56 am to BrerTiger
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But he sure as shite talked a lot of shop with Dawkins about the very shady business (however common it is in college sports) they both most definitely were part of.
It appears as though they did on three documented occasions, ostensibly more. If that's all the "evidence" against Wade, it's the NCAA's prerogative to pursue penalties against Wade and/or LSU. To this point, it seems like a weak case, but the NCAA marches the beat of its own drum, so who really knows.
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