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re: Article blasting Bryan Harsin.

Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:50 am to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30902 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:50 am to
Harsin's refusal to play this game has pretty much been the only thing I have liked about his tenure so far. If we have to forfeit games because people have lost their minds, that's a small price to pay to maintain freedom and integrity against the NWO machine.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:50 am to
I think Harsin is a bad fit for Auburn and doubt he will succeed but that article makes me want to pull for him. Any man that is willing to stand up for the right of people to make their own health decisions and for those decisions to remain private.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:55 am to
quote:

The coach should 100% be vaccinated. He is paid millions to be the face of the football team. The players should make their own choices but be made aware of the consequences if they fall ill during the season

Forfeiting games will be the difference for some teams this year


Interesting. Since he can test positive whether he is vaxxed or not what's the point?

Oh, and people should be able to make their own health decisions and the idea that they should be pressured into losing their jobs in a case like this is terrible and is an assault on freedom.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19714 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:55 am to
Linking a Joe Goodman article should be punishable by death
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30603 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:56 am to
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I don't see where businesses, or Universities, or head coaches have to be into politics to be politically correct when it comes to this virus. You send the right message to fans, players, their families, that you care about everyone's health in a pandemic. It's just good business. And it's the right thing to do.

I'm not referring to politics. I'm referring to rules.
"The SEC might not finalize its game management COVID-19 protocols until the week of the first game, commissioner Greg Sankey told The Athletic on Friday, but teams should be ready for the possibility they will have to forfeit if they don't have enough players available due to the virus."
This includes quarantining players! Last year they tried to reschedule games...this year you'll forfeit the game!...Ask the Vandy baseball team.
If I'm a coach, I'm gonna do everything I can to keep that from happening! There'll be a bunch of short sighted folks around here who'll hoop and holler about taking the vax, BUT when their team gets hit with a forfeit, they'll squeal like pigs (no offense Arkansas)!...I hope we don't have to see that!
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:59 am
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5982 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:57 am to
Joseph Goodman, Jr penned article…I’ll pass
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7160 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:58 am to
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If we have to forfeit games because people have lost their minds, that's a small price to pay to maintain freedom and integrity


That is truly dramatic. I have been vaccinated and it hasn't negatively impacted my freedom at all. In fact, it's improved my freedom. Since I have some respiratory problems I avoided public places till I had the vaccine, but now I can play bars and events again without worrying much about it. I realize I can still get the covid but I also realize the chances are dramatically reduced.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30902 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:03 am to
Agree to disagree. You may think forcing healthcare decisions onto people is no big deal, but I vehemently disagree. Plus, once you start mandating that where does it stop? Hint, it doesn't.

As for you, you are right to assess your own health risks and make that decision for yourself. Anyone who has health issues should probably reason that the vaccine is less risk than the virus. For young, healthy people it stands to reason they may not feel the same way.

And now that we know the vaccine does nothing to prevent the spread you can't even play the do it for your neighbor card.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5982 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:08 am to
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I'm not referring to politics. I'm referring to rules.


This is the crux of it. The rules are setup to make it incredibly fraught for a team to compete for championships if they do not get to the magic number to avoid weekly testing on their team.

This new mutation/variant is a bit more contagious and the soft lockdowns are over across most of the country. The risk factors are going to be way higher w/r/t derailing an entire season. No rescheduling to save anyone this year. You better have the bodies to participate in a competition or forfeit.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:10 am to
As just testing positive is all it takes to screw up a game with all the conta t tracing not sure the vaccine even matters as it pertains to players being quantined.

The vaccines main goal is to cut down on major illness which Phil Valentine recently learned the hard way.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7160 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:11 am to
I can agree with most of your post but this just isn't so...

"now that we know the vaccine does nothing to prevent the spread "

We don't know that, and in fact, some studies suggest it can prevent the spread. Unfortunately, so many remain unvaccinated that it undermines the effort to stop it entirely. The new variants, like Delta, is another issue.

Studies show that vaccines reduce the spread of SARS-CoV-2 by more than 80%, but the Delta variant is creating fresh uncertainty.


edit to note I'm not the poster that downvoted you
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 11:12 am
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:15 am to
As Covid19 is not of human origin, there is no stopping it. It is now similar to the yearly flu many vaccinate for. Some times it works sometimes it dont. Though I highly recommend getting vaccinated.

Covid is now with us forever and can only be managed. frick you China.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30603 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:16 am to
quote:

This is the crux of it. The rules are setup to make it incredibly fraught for a team to compete for championships if they do not get to the magic number to avoid weekly testing on their team.

This new mutation/variant is a bit more contagious and the soft lockdowns are over across most of the country. The risk factors are going to be way higher w/r/t derailing an entire season. No rescheduling to save anyone this year. You better have the bodies to participate in a competition or forfeit.

Correctamundo!
I just hope that NO SEC teams have their season wrecked because once the virus gets into the program, it'll be a bitch to get clean enough to play other games!
Again, that's why I question any coaches decision to take this lightly and not get vaxed, nor urge it for the team.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
30902 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:16 am to
Fair enough, but my logic tells me we have like 60% of the population vaxxed and the numbers now are worse than it has ever been. There's no way that would be possible if the vaccine was mitigating spread of the virus. Be it the original or Delta variant or whatever other variant may be out there, the fact is it's not working.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:17 am to
Goodman is a douche and Harsin is a moron
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22810 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:18 am to
quote:

Harsin's refusal to play this game has pretty much been the only thing I have liked about his tenure so far.


I've been giving Auburn fans a hard time about him in general, but this is one topic I'll not be giving him any shite about.

Plus, I won't even bother clicking on a Goodman article.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
14364 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:19 am to
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I'm not referring to politics. I'm referring to rules.


My comment wasn't addressing anything you said specifically. I just wanted to say that the head coach needs to look like anyone else in cooperate America. That they have a game plan, and that taking this health issue seriously is priority one.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5841 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:19 am to
Tbat is a bullshite article
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
5704 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:25 am to
First the "experts" said the vaccines would prevent you from getting covid. They don't.

Then they said it would prevent the spread. They don't.

Now it's that if you're vaxxed your symptoms won't be as severe.

Keep believing the "experts."

As for al.commie and their pitiful writers, I'll pass on giving them a click.
Posted by starkvingrad
Florida
Member since Apr 2021
5837 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Please stop calling the clot shot a "vaccine". It isn't.




Ok master
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