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Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:30 pm to razors
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:30 pm to razors
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so let me get this straight, since AR joined the SEC in'92 the series record between LSU and AR stands at 10-7 in favor of LSU, but since '98 the series goes 6-5, and under Miles/Saban it's 5-4 between them, heck under Miles the four games they have played have been decided by a TOTAL OF 10 POINTS?!! Seems to me since we joined the this conference we've done well against the Tiggers?? Let's look at Auburn: last 11 meetings AR 6 wins AU 5 wins; how about Bama? Tide 6 wins; Hogs 5...I think the Razorbacks have held their own in the Western Division; including 2 Title game appearances this decade.
No doubt Arkansas has been a pain LSU's side recently. But we still own the all-time series by a large margin and still have a winning record over Ark since they joined the SEC. The huge difference between LSU, Bama and Auburn over Arkansas is a simple one...Those teams have won championships and been to and won big bowls since you've joined the SEC.
Simply winning the SEC West isn't a feat, nobody brags about that, it's a race of just 6 teams. It means nothing if you can't win the SECCG. LSU has been to and won 4 BCS Bowls, 3 SEC Championships and 2 National Championships since Arkansas has joined the conference. Alabama has been to 3 BCS Bowls (counting sugar pre-bcs) and won 1. They also have 2 SEC Championships and a National Title since Arkansas joined the conference. Auburn has been to 1 BCS bowl and won it. They also have an SEC Championship and should have a National Championship being that they went an undefeated 13-0.
That's the big difference between these programs. And as I've stated before, I'll take whatever record against Arkansas if we keep accomplishing above...and I'd bet Arkansas wouldn't care either about records vs. teams if they just won Championships and went to and won big bowl games.
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You don't make 36 Bowl appearances, with 23 BEING NEW YEAR'S DAY Bowls, including: 11 Cotton, 5 Sugar, 2 Orange, 1 Fiesta, 2 Gator, 2 Citrus and have a "cellar dweller/ mediocre football program.
You have been to exactly zero bcs/big 4 bowl games since being in the SEC. And I wouldn't brag about bowls if I were an Arkansas fan. You guys are known for being a terrible bowl team having one of the worst bowl records. No one is saying you are Vanderbilt, but what we are saying is you aren't a program up there with the likes of the elite SEC teams and that's simply due to on average those teams having better players.
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Hey Tiger Fans where was your team from '89-'01?
remember Hallman and Dinardeaux?
Yes, we sucked for a while then, but have had much success in the SEC even prior to this decade with several SEC Championships and big bowl wins including another National Championship. We went through a bad coaching spell but it really isn't that hard to win at LSU if you just lock down the state's top talent which Saban and Miles have done.We really don't need to do a lot of out of state recruiting like a team such as Arkansas must do to be successful.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:33 pm to thunderbird1100
Can't believe I read the whole post. 

Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:40 pm to razors
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thunderbird please explain the BIGTIME series record LSU "owns" over AR since we joined the same conference as LSU? 10-7 since '92 and 6-5 over the past 11 meetings? That's a big margin? interesting..
33-19-2. That is our record over you all-time. That's quite a significant margin.
And since you've joined the SEC we have beaten you more than we have lost to you which is all I care about as far as us vs. you is concerned. We beat you 5-3 in the 1990s and beat you 5-4 so far this decade and went on 4-game win streaks in both decades. I could honestly care less if the margin was 9-8 for us or 14-3 for us. The primary goal for us is to win the SEC, go to big bowl games, win those big bowl games, and win NCs. We lost to you in 2007, but I'll take that season over and over and over because we accomplished everything we set out for -> Winning the SEC, Getting to a Big Bowl Game, Winning that big bowl game...and winning a national title.
Since '92 we've been to and won 4 big bowl (BCS) games, 3 SEC Championships and 2 National Titles...what can Arkansas claim?
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:40 pm to pioneerbasketball
Sorry Pioneer, I shouldn't gotten upset like I did, but Skull really hacked me off. Didn't represent Arkansas well.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:42 pm to pitbull1Ark
There is a reason why he posts on the political and rant.
If you get my drift.
If you get my drift.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:58 pm to southarktiger
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I was wondering how others felt about the Razorback football program.
I've never really considered them a rival...but they do seem to beat us every year.

Posted on 1/21/09 at 2:59 pm to thunderbird1100
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Simply winning the SEC West isn't a feat, nobody brags about that
Obviously you didn't see Hooty at SEC Media days...pimpin his 2006 West ring...
I wish I could find it
Posted on 1/21/09 at 3:36 pm to razors
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Or take that Holiday kick return back in '06, and hogs win that one

How bout we take away the long run by DMac?
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Chip shot field goals
Now you sound like an Auburn fan. Simply attempting a field goal counts as points on a message board.
I am just pointing out that over the past 11 years the LSU and Arkansas programs have been on vastly different levels. Using that 6-5 record to say otherwise is extremely misleading when you look at how the games played out.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 3:55 pm to skullhawk
I like to respond to this thread by first saying that i respect the HELL out of the Arkansas program. I don't dislike them. I know their fans are more hating of LSU than we are of them.
I would like to say this with all due respect. I can't stand their coach, and no it's not b/c yall beat us this year. Congrats on that by the way.
I hated how the Atlanta deal worked out and the Auburn deal back in the day. I think he is a slimy piece of shite. Then the fricker had the audacity to get mad about his defensive coach leaving to go to USCe. They talked about it on the radio the other day here in Jackson. Basically, Petrino said there needs to be non compete clauses in contracts so the coaches will fulfill their contractual obligations, which i actually AGREE with him. If it came from another coach, i wouldn't have cared except Saban.
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What the frick does Petrino know about honoring a contract? Of all the coaches in the SEC who should keep his mouth shut on those issues, it's that pile of dung.
And i know alot of Hog fans don't like miles b/c he called them R Kansas. I get that too.
Overall, i don't mind the hogs unless they are playing us.
Woo pig and
I would like to say this with all due respect. I can't stand their coach, and no it's not b/c yall beat us this year. Congrats on that by the way.
I hated how the Atlanta deal worked out and the Auburn deal back in the day. I think he is a slimy piece of shite. Then the fricker had the audacity to get mad about his defensive coach leaving to go to USCe. They talked about it on the radio the other day here in Jackson. Basically, Petrino said there needs to be non compete clauses in contracts so the coaches will fulfill their contractual obligations, which i actually AGREE with him. If it came from another coach, i wouldn't have cared except Saban.
BUT
What the frick does Petrino know about honoring a contract? Of all the coaches in the SEC who should keep his mouth shut on those issues, it's that pile of dung.
And i know alot of Hog fans don't like miles b/c he called them R Kansas. I get that too.
Overall, i don't mind the hogs unless they are playing us.
Woo pig and

Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:07 pm to Barry Badrinath
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I think he is a slimy piece of shite.


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Then the fricker had the audacity to get mad about his defensive coach leaving to go to USCe.
link?
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What the frick does Petrino know about honoring a contract?
Yeah, what does he know?He is a POS.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:11 pm to pioneerbasketball
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link?
Of course he never said it.
Like i said, heard it on SEC Drive Time. If anyone else from SE area that listens to it heard it they can confirm it. Said he was upset the guy left and went to another SEC school.
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Yeah, what does he know?
Exactly. Thanks for proving my point. I want to hear some bullshite excuses yall give why he did those shitty things. It's entertaining. It's like hearing LSU fans defend Miles by saying he didn't know how to pronounce Arkansas.
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He is a POS

Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:14 pm to Barry Badrinath
As long as he wins and doesn't take players to sonic to get ice cream after they get a dwi, I don't care what he does.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:17 pm to pioneerbasketball
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As long as he wins and doesn't take players to sonic to get ice cream after they get a dwi, I don't care what he does.
I respect that.
What if he wins 10 games next year, and you find out he is going to coach ND and never knew he interviewed for the job?
Now, if he was LSU's coach, i would feel the same way you do about the guy. I just wouldn't like how his past has preceded him. But just win baby. I hope he stays at Arky for a long time. Think he makes the SEC a stronger conference.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:20 pm to Barry Badrinath
More Power to him. He left the program in better shape than he found it and we know espn won't bash ND.
Arkansas won 5 Games and is currently 16th in recruiting.
Arkansas won 5 Games and is currently 16th in recruiting.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:23 pm to pioneerbasketball
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He left the program in better shape than he found it
100% agree. If Nutt would have stayed one more year, they definitely would have shitcanned him. Instead of paying him to say he quit.
I never said Petrino wasn't a good coach. I think he's a good coach.
This post was edited on 1/21/09 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 1/21/09 at 4:25 pm to Barry Badrinath
He Left us with a 160 pound HB.

Posted on 1/21/09 at 6:24 pm to thunderbird1100
Did you know? Between 1968 and 1989, Arkansas didn't suffer a single losing season. That non-losing-season streak is longer than any in the history of SEC rival LSU.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 7:34 pm to Mud
UA vs LSU is a lot like USC vs UGA. they always play their best game of the year vs. uga. people look at it and say 'wtf?' same w/ ark and lsu.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 7:41 pm to hogbody
1)We wasn't in the SEC
2)That was 20 years ago.
2)That was 20 years ago.
Posted on 1/21/09 at 7:44 pm to pioneerbasketball
Petrino is locked in with a residual buy out clause meaning it would cost another school at least 3-4 million dollars to buy him out in 3 years if they bought him out in 1 it would be like 8 million. You may not like how things went down in Atlanta and Petrino probably did not like being there but he has done what he thought was best for him and his family. He is happy here and will be here for quite some time.
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