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re: Arkansas Fans References To National Title Hopes in 2012
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:25 am to TheNotoriousGOP
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:25 am to TheNotoriousGOP
as you totally prove my point...my last post was too long, I readily admit that, but I felt an analogy was in order and the one I came up with was quite appropriate....this story is a long way from being a finished product....what amazes me is how LSU fan can claim being equals to the Tide....ALabama dominated LSU like no other team in the SEC for a long time in the 80's, 90's and early 2000's...LSU claiming they are on par with Alabama is just as ridiculous as ARK claiming the same with LSU...yet your jaundiced eyes apparently cannot see that far
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Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:37 am to Thibodaux Hog
If we are talikng recent history (the last decade), LSU has definitely been on par or surpassed Alabama's success on the field. Alltime history between the schools is not even close (Alabama kills us). Arkansas vs LSU (in the last decade is not even close LSU has multiple BCS bowl and BCSNC wins, and Akie has zereaux. LSU and Arkie alltime is not even close series is 34-20 LSU favor. Arkansas has not achieved (won any significant hardware) since entering the SEC. Maybe one day, but not so far. Keeping working out.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:42 am to TheNotoriousGOP
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All I got from this is you have a strange fascination with 15 year old boys....
I missed this comment on the previous page.Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:49 am to oklahogjr
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With petrino we were a contender and without him we are not. It is as simple as that.
With Nick Saban this upcoming season you would not be a national title contender because no matter who is the coach you don't have the defensive talent/depth the top teams have and not a superstar i.e. Cam Newton type of offensive firepower to overcome your defensive shortcomings. It's actually as simple as that.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:50 am to 870Hog
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Yep, tl;dr
Short version:
Arkansas is LSU's little brother and we keep you in your place. Oh, and we enjoy doing it.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 2:55 am to thunderbird1100
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With Nick Saban this upcoming season you would not be a national title contender because no matter who is the coach you don't have the defensive talent/depth the top teams have and not a superstar i.e. Cam Newton type of offensive firepower to overcome your defensive shortcomings. It's actually as simple as that.
we would have been a contender. maybe you don't comprehend what that means but we definitely would have been. don't be a stupid troll, not really in the mood for it tonight.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:03 am to oklahogjr
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don't be a stupid troll, not really in the mood for it tonight.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:04 am to TheNotoriousGOP
Being a good or witty troll tonight is acceptable just not a stupid or ignorant one.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:05 am to TheNotoriousGOP
ummm....LSU win pct against Arkansas is exactly identical to Bama's win pct over LSU. Also, Bama was on probation and in recovery during the best run in LSU history. Since Bama's return to prominence, they have dominated you in everything that is football. You have the SEC title, which is actually great. Still, you act as if whooping on Bama while they were down is something to be proud of. Arkansas did the exact same thing from 2000 up until Saban arrived with an absolute idiot coaching. I have to accept the fact that Arkansas didn't care about football from 1990 to 2008, so it's something I just have to put up with. Still, ever since our program decided to start caring about football again, Arkansas has been knipping at your heels and has kept the head to head dead even.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:06 am to oklahogjr
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we would have been a contender. maybe you don't comprehend what that means but we definitely would have been. don't be a stupid troll, not really in the mood for it tonight.
You're watering down the definition of a "contender". If you want to make it go out to 10 teams or so, then maybe...but I wouldn't consider 10 teams to be NC contenders. If you ask your joe blow college football fan to list their NC contenders for next season they would say this...
ACC/Big East - Nobody
Big Ten - Probably nobody (maybe some would say Michigan)
P12 - USC, probably Oregon
B12 - Oklahoma
SEC - LSU and Bama
If you want to start watering down "contender" to more teams that don't appear to be in the same shape/situation as these teams above you would start to see the definitely Oregon/Michigan and then teams like USCe, UGA, Arky, WVU, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Florida State, etc...I don't consider these "contenders" on the same level as the elite teams with loaded rosters (and proven coaches) going into next year.
Arkansas isn't on the same type of level specifically as LSU/Bama/USC/OU going into next season.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:13 am to thunderbird1100
You have no idea what teams are going to come out, and what teams are going to fall flat on their faces. Nobody does. Vegas is the best in the business at narrowing it down and they had Arkansas as a preseason top 5 to be in the title hunt. That is saying something right there. Your blind hate of the ACC and Big Ten is showing right now. Wisconsin was 2 plays away from playing LSU in the title game. 2 hail marys separted Wisconsin from a national title game. OSU was also the same way. And there is always a TCU/BSU/Houston type team that will crash the BCS as well. I get that there are 4-5 legit no shite teams you can pick from, and likely 2 of them will play for the title. Still, there are at least 10 teams with the talent and ability to make the title game every season depending on the way the ball bounces.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 3:14 am
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:15 am to ShreveportHog94
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mmm....LSU win pct against Arkansas is exactly identical to Bama's win pct over LSU
Yes, and he said Bama owns us all-time, but we are pretty even recently in h2h and in accomplishments.
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Also, Bama was on probation and in recovery during the best run in LSU history. Since Bama's return to prominence, they have dominated you in everything that is football.
Did you forget LSU beat Bama AT Bama last season? Or did you just remember the NC game? Last I checked LSU still beat them at their place last and won the conference...a year in which Bama won the NC. So in one of Bama's best years we still beat them @ their place and won the conference. Also, last I checked, Les Miles doesn't even have a losing record vs. Saban.
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Still, ever since our program decided to start caring about football again, Arkansas has been knipping at your heels and has kept the head to head dead even.
You may have taken a few games from us recently but you are not even close to nipping at our national accomplishment heels. We have appeared in 5 BCS games winning 4 of them, appeared in 5 SEC Title games winning 4 of them and appeared in 3 NC games winning 2 in a span of about a decade.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:18 am to ShreveportHog94
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You have no idea what teams are going to come out, and what teams are going to fall flat on their faces. Nobody does. Vegas is the best in the business at narrowing it down and they had Arkansas as a preseason top 5 to be in the title hunt. That is saying something right there. Your blind hate of the ACC and Big Ten is showing right now. Wisconsin was 2 plays away from playing LSU in the title game. 2 hail marys separted Wisconsin from a national title game. OSU was also the same way. And there is always a TCU/BSU/Houston type team that will crash the BCS as well. I get that there are 4-5 legit no shite teams you can pick from, and likely 2 of them will play for the title. Still, there are at least 10 teams with the talent and ability to make the title game every season depending on the way the ball bounces.
You can babble on all you want but there isn't a (knowledgeable) person out there who would lump Arkansas into the same National Title Consideration as LSU, Bama, OU or USC this upcoming season before or after Petrino being canned. Like I said it wasn't merely a coaching matter, it's a talent matter, you don't have it considering your situation (conference). You could get away with being a NC contender in the ACC, Big East and possibly even P12/B10 next year...but not in the SEC.
Like I said if you want to really water down the definition of a true "NC contender" to put it out to teams significantly worse than the clear top ones then that's you. But I would not do that.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 3:21 am
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:22 am to thunderbird1100
And of course I can't avoid you bringing up an impressive resume while we kept a absolute fricking idiot as our coach that entire time. How many BCS games have you played for and won since 2008? Which is also when I said Arkansas started caring about football again. You won the SEC and that is awesome. And your wins against Bama are impressive, but you do not dominate Arkansas head to head which is the argument.
And I love how when we win a close game with you it is escaping, but when you win a close home game on an absoulte bull fricking shite call, it was meant to be and order is restored.
And I love how when we win a close game with you it is escaping, but when you win a close home game on an absoulte bull fricking shite call, it was meant to be and order is restored.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:30 am to thunderbird1100
Ignorance truly is bliss. And I love how you throw out OU after the fact that they fell flat on their fricking overrated faces last season. You are truly just an arrogant frick who probably predicts LSU in the national title game every season and no matter what, will never change that opinion. You're entitled to it and to be overly optimistic. You have a great team but you are playing @ Arkansas. You will not run thru us like you did last season.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:32 am to ShreveportHog94
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And of course I can't avoid you bringing up an impressive resume while we kept a absolute fricking idiot as our coach that entire time. How many BCS games have you played for and won since 2008? Which is also when I said Arkansas started caring about football again
Are you really trying to say Arkansas has significantly hurt us under Petrino? Are you joking?
Since 2008, even with our down years of 2008/9 which had nothing to do with Arkansas, we've averaged just over 10 wins a year. Finished #17, #8 and #2 in the country, won an SEC championship and played in the national title game. I'd say we're still operating at a top level.
We were bad in 2009 when you beat us and while we were pretty decent in 2010 you beating us didn't affect us in the conference race as Auburn was obviously the team that year. The only thing Petrino may have done is prevent us from beating tOSU again as we all know how easy that is for SEC teams in a bowl game...err, whoops.
This post was edited on 4/12/12 at 3:40 am
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:39 am to ShreveportHog94
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And I love how you throw out OU after the fact that they fell flat on their fricking overrated faces last season
I throw out OU because they are considered far and away the top team in their conference next year and have a very easily navigable schedule. Just as any real CFB would throw them out there as a true NC contender next season. It's not like it's some shocking thing to say OU is a NC contender next year playing in the B12.
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You are truly just an arrogant frick who probably predicts LSU in the national title game every season and no matter what
Good try but not even close. I had LSU at 10-2 last season and we ended up 13-0 and playing in the NC. I even said before last season our NC hopes were going to be better this year compared to last year merely do to how young that team was compared to this one, QB situation and schedule being much easier this year.
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You have a great team but you are playing @ Arkansas. You will not run thru us like you did last season.
Bold words considering we crushed you, return a lot of that and you just lost what most of your fan base considered your good thing going. Honestly, I'm not really all that worried about Arkansas right now going into next season, you guys are in a bit of disarray currently.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:46 am to thunderbird1100
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Are you really trying to say Arkansas has significantly hurt us under Petrino? Are you joking?
Not sure what you mean by hurting you. We took a BCS game away by dominating you so stop trying to down play that. A BCS bowl is a target right below the title for every team every season and you were denied that by Arkansas.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:52 am to thunderbird1100
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You're watering down the definition of a "contender". If you want to make it go out to 10 teams or so, then maybe...but I wouldn't consider 10 teams to be NC contenders. If you ask your joe blow college football fan to list their NC contenders for next season they would say this...
ACC/Big East - Nobody
Big Ten - Probably nobody (maybe some would say Michigan)
P12 - USC, probably Oregon
B12 - Oklahoma
SEC - LSU and Bama
If you want to start watering down "contender" to more teams that don't appear to be in the same shape/situation as these teams above you would start to see the definitely Oregon/Michigan and then teams like USCe, UGA, Arky, WVU, Wisconsin, Michigan State, Florida State, etc...I don't consider these "contenders" on the same level as the elite teams with loaded rosters (and proven coaches) going into next year.
Arkansas isn't on the same type of level specifically as LSU/Bama/USC/OU going into next season.
teams I would consider contenders would be teams that have a schedule that sets up well, talent on both sides of the ball(we have more talent than we are given credit for), solid coaching, leadership. We had all those things, now one element has been taken away. We will see if how the replacement of the coach goes, if it goes well we may be in contention this year.
Posted on 4/12/12 at 3:55 am to thunderbird1100
It's bold to say you won't run thru us at home? We were not even close to the same team on the road. Just couldn't figure it out. Still we made it a game for 3/4 of it until the depth took over. I guess I'll just have to wait till November before you guys stop talking about how you crushed us at home with the best team in your school's history. It's really getting old.
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