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Arkansas fans... Frank Broyles never beat Florida
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 5:58 pm
First off, congrats to kicking our arse for a second year in a row.
Second off, I don't give a shite about Arkansas' history with Florida.
I am, however, curious about how things went down with Frank Broyles in the 70s.
Here's why I ask:
I was looking at Cholly Mac's record from '62 to '73. During that era, LSU was 12th in winning percentage. I noticed Arkansas was right behind LSU at #13. LINK
Then I looked closer at Broyles and noticed that like Cholly Mac he went into decline mode in the 70s. From '72 to '76, Broyles lost 4 or 5 games each year except for '75. Mac's decline started when Alabama whipped us in '73 and from '74 onwards LSU was never the same.
So was it a similar story with Broyles? Did he just start to slip towards the end and struggle to maintain?
I think you can see where this conversation is going but if you can contain your answers to the topic at hand (Mac and Broyles) it would be greatly appreciated.
Second off, I don't give a shite about Arkansas' history with Florida.
I am, however, curious about how things went down with Frank Broyles in the 70s.
Here's why I ask:
I was looking at Cholly Mac's record from '62 to '73. During that era, LSU was 12th in winning percentage. I noticed Arkansas was right behind LSU at #13. LINK
Then I looked closer at Broyles and noticed that like Cholly Mac he went into decline mode in the 70s. From '72 to '76, Broyles lost 4 or 5 games each year except for '75. Mac's decline started when Alabama whipped us in '73 and from '74 onwards LSU was never the same.
So was it a similar story with Broyles? Did he just start to slip towards the end and struggle to maintain?
I think you can see where this conversation is going but if you can contain your answers to the topic at hand (Mac and Broyles) it would be greatly appreciated.
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 6:27 pm
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Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:24 pm to BrerTiger
Updated thread title to a topic that Arkansas fans actually care about.
Apparently they would destroy Florida this year if Florida wasn't a team of chickenous sluts afraid of playing Arkansas
Apparently they would destroy Florida this year if Florida wasn't a team of chickenous sluts afraid of playing Arkansas
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:32 pm to BrerTiger
I mean, I wasn't even alive back then so I am not sure...
1969 Game of the Century did something to Broyles though. Later in the 70's I believe he was focused on getting the AD job.
Broyles to this day, has never watched film of the 1969 loss to Texas.
1969 Game of the Century did something to Broyles though. Later in the 70's I believe he was focused on getting the AD job.
Broyles to this day, has never watched film of the 1969 loss to Texas.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:33 pm to BrerTiger
But Lou did in Houston
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:36 pm to BrerTiger
I'm oldish but I have no personal recollection of him coaching us and I've been watching the hogs since I was itty bitty. Iow, I could just google and find records and stuff for ya but looks like you did that yourself. 
This post was edited on 11/16/15 at 6:37 pm
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:38 pm to BrerTiger
Broyles did great things for Arkansas. His decline began when he became AD and Head coach. Too much to handle I think. His team the year after he hired Lou Holtz was arguably the best team in the nation that year but too much to say here. He also has made a few bad decisions like turning down Jimmy Johnson twice on being Ark head coach. Great teams through most of the 60's and some of the 70's. Already too long so I'll stop here. Didn't agree with everything but always a Broyles fan.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:42 pm to Hawgeye
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1969 Game of the Century did something to Broyles though.
Hmm. The next year (1970) Arkansas did start the season 9-1 but closed out with a 42-7 whooping at the hands of Texas.
Things did appear to come off the rails from there. 3 losses in '71 (but a 31-7 win over Texas), 5 losses in '72, 5 losses in '73, 4 losses in '74. Then in '75 the Cotton Bowl season with only 2 losses (lost to Texas 24-18). '76 was his last season at 5-5-1 and 3-4-1 in SWC.
Definitely feels very analogous. From '58 to '76, Bama and Texas had more wins than other major conference schools. During that same timeframe, LSU and Arkansas were roughly the same in terms of winning percentage.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:45 pm to Tuskateer
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He also has made a few bad decisions like turning down Jimmy Johnson twice on being Ark head coach.
Mother of God, that would have been a great hire.
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Johnson interviewed for the head coaching job at Arkansas when Lou Holtz left following the 1983 season, then later found out Ken Hatfield had already been hired. Upset that Frank Broyles (who was still the Arkansas athletic director) made no mention of this during the interview, Jimmy distanced himself from his alma mater. As payback for the snub, a home-and-home series was scheduled with Arkansas. In 1987, Miami gave Arkansas its worst home loss ever at that time, 51-7.
Yikes.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:48 pm to BrerTiger
Arky gator obsessed, nice troll on the arky fans.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:54 pm to OliverQueen81
You're obsessed you're bumping all of these threads bro
Posted on 11/16/15 at 6:58 pm to BrerTiger
I won't get into the Arkansas/Texas thing too much but officiating was much different back then. You think Bama or whoever has their way? You have no idea what bad really is. They could call illegal procedure back then and did not have to explain anything nor could you complain about it. We had several games go down to the wire having national championship implications blatantly taken away by TEXAS officials. So there is the Ark hate for texas. Obviously I still don't like after all these years.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:01 pm to Tuskateer
The 69 shootout was a perfect example. I don't feel trolled. Felt good to talk about it. Maybe I'm too old to know I've been trolled 
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:10 pm to Tuskateer
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The 69 shootout was a perfect example. I don't feel trolled. Felt good to talk about it. Maybe I'm too old to know I've been trolled
No troll.
Appreciate the responses.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:12 pm to BrerTiger
Florida didn't even play football back then. Who cares.
Posted on 11/16/15 at 7:13 pm to BrerTiger
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Then I looked closer at Broyles and noticed that like Cholly Mac he went into decline mode in the 70s. From '72 to '76, Broyles lost 4 or 5 games each year except for '75. Mac's decline started when Alabama whipped us in '73 and from '74 onwards LSU was never the same.
Broyles became the AD as well during that time.
He was losing his best assistants to other major programs as well.
The biggest factor to his decline was probably him signing the equivalent to 5 stars today who turned out to be busts at a large rate.
For Example, Nutt was his last "great" signee, he had offers to basically every school in the country and it came down to Bama and Arkansas for him.
When Holtz took over Nutt never saw the field and ended up leaving for Okie State and having his Father call Frank to inform him of the transfer after he didn't show up from break. He couldn't see the film because he was "too damn stupid to run the option offense" according to the starting QB at that time.
For some reason he also believed a HC had a shelf life of 50 years of age, meaning once you qualified for AARP your best days as a HC were well behind you.
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