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re: Arizona fires Sean Miller. Will Wade next?

Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:22 pm to
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Dellenger said 6-12 months on BR radio for whatever that's worth.



Originally heard 5-6 months since this was already so long drawn out and wanted to get a resolution on it but yeah looking it up normally takes 6-12 months, that's pretty nuts. NCAA processes are so worthlessly terrible
Posted by pxrona
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:25 pm to
My MY Lunatik.spraeding negative energy on here ? Oh,I guess it's ok as long as it's not the precious baseball team lol
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Yeah, I thought I read something as well that we should expect something late summer


I don't see how the NCAA can go another year without dropping a NOA on LSU. Just from a credibility standpoint, they need to put up or shut up.

If we are here a year later and they are still sitting on their hands, I wouldn't be shocked (though it would be a terrible move IMHO) to see Will Wade go full Chizik and ask someone at the NCAA when the cloud they put over his program will be gone.
Posted by ForeverLSU5
Member since Mar 2019
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:29 pm to
Miller being fired had a lot more to do with Arizona not being good the past few years.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:30 pm to
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Originally heard 5-6 months since this was already so long drawn out and wanted to get a resolution

According to Delly, the IARP has to do it's own investigation so it's starting all over from square one.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:31 pm to
Wade, O, probably the womens coach too.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:33 pm to
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I don't see how the NCAA can go another year without dropping a NOA on LSU


Whose to say they dont already have it. UL got their NOA prior to going to the IARP
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:34 pm to
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Whose to say they dont already have it


One would hope the media would have caught wind of it by now. Certainly not local media in BR but probably USA Today.

Posted by SmokeTide
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:34 pm to
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I wish they would just release whatever they want to release and be done with it, it's gone on way too long


Probably a lot of this stuff is tied up in ligation and procedural red tape. I think the NCAA doesn't want to look bad especially after Miami and North Carolina cases fell through. I believe LSU had a right to a fair and speedy conclusion to all this under normal circumstances but it's just so much fog around Red Stick it's providing cover to dig up stuff that might otherwise be overlooked.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:36 pm to
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One would hope the media would have caught wind of it by now. Certainly not local media in BR but probably USA Today.


The schools wont release them until everything has been ruled on. Same thing happened with UL. There are rumors Auburn has received one as well, but wont be released until all said and done.

I believe Kansas got theirs prior to IARP as well
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:36 pm to
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the IARP has to do it's own investigation so it's starting all over from square one.


Yeah, I think I read that somewhere as well in an article that was talking about why the IARP is so glacially slow. They basically took all the notes and are reinvestigating everything for themselves.

And if you believe the "sauces" saying the FBI is still actively digging into Wade then who knows how damn long they'll be digging.

:alltheGoodfellasgifs:
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:43 pm to
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I think the NCAA doesn't want to look bad especially after Miami and North Carolina cases fell through. I believe LSU had a right to a fair and speedy conclusion to all this under normal circumstances but it's just so much fog around Red Stick it's providing cover to dig up stuff that might otherwise be overlooked.


Yup. All of that is what worries me.

The OLOL charity stuff was fairly contained and LSU was able to self report pretty much everything once it became aware. Which is why LSU tried to keep it completely separate from the basketball mess so that it could be adjudicated and the school could move on.

This stuff with Wade is a giant unknown. We have no clue what they have found but the smoke we do know about makes it clear shite could be huge if they do find what they are looking for. I have other thoughts but I'll leave it there.
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:48 pm to
There's no appeal process with the IARP, correct? Am I remembering that correctly? That may be one reason that the NCAA handed it off.
Posted by BrerTiger
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:50 pm to
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There's no appeal process with the IARP, correct? Am I remembering that correctly?


correct.

Entirely new process they came up with just to deal with the vastness of this basketball scandal.

They wanted outside folks so the NCAA could claim it was impartial, thorough and fair.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:54 pm to
The Schofield Kid: Yeah, well, I guess they had it coming.

Will Munny : We all got it coming, kid.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:56 pm to
LSU is doing pretty much what Arizona has done
Let it play out while his contract continues to run until you have to make a decision
Last thing LSU wants to do is fire Wade and have a lawsuit from Wade come back to haunt them for defamation of character
If LSU has to fire him, than at that point, you accept the NCAA consequences and move on
LSU suspended Smart and Wade at the initial time it all came down
Both were reinstated with meetings involving NCAA
What more could LSU have done?

Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 12:56 pm to
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impartial, thorough and fai

Seems counterintuitive to say that and not have an appeals process. Sounds like they could just hand down whatever punishment the NCAA was after and not provide any evidence as to why the punishment was administered.
Posted by SmokeTide
Gulf Coast Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:05 pm to
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LSU is doing pretty much what Arizona has done
Let it play out while his contract continues to run until you have to make a decision
Last thing LSU wants to do is fire Wade and have a lawsuit from Wade come back to haunt them for defamation of character
If LSU has to fire him, than at that point, you accept the NCAA consequences and move on
LSU suspended Smart and Wade at the initial time it all came down
Both were reinstated with meetings involving NCAA
What more could LSU have done?



Very elegantly put, if LSU didn't feel like Wade could be fired with cause... it would just be throwing money away and still be possibly penalized after the process has been concluded.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:08 pm to
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Make the NCAA prove something.


If you've followed them for more than a couple of days, you should know they don't have to prove anything. They've just got to decide they think you did it.

Posted by BrerTiger
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 1:14 pm to
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Very elegantly put, if LSU didn't feel like Wade could be fired with cause... it would just be throwing money away and still be possibly penalized after the process has been concluded.


Bingo.

Whereas suspending Smart and then Wade (a hugely unpopular decision with LSU's fanbase) sent the right signal that LSU was taking this very seriously. LSU's compliance department has a great reputation for self reporting and cooperating.

I don't think it's going to help LSU much but if they had truly put their head in the sand then the punishment might end up being much worse.

LSU is in a very difficult spot. Wade buttoned up tight as is his right. LSU has put itself in position to deal with him if/when that moment comes. It's up to the NCAA to make their case.
This post was edited on 4/7/21 at 1:23 pm
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