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re: Are you pleased with the SEC Expansion adding Mizzou & A&M?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:05 pm to Dr RC
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:05 pm to Dr RC
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even with the $50 million buyout the ACC voted on?
Still chump change...
ACC total/school revenue $17 mil post expansion(and Notre Dame won't be adding much value to this because of their own tv deal)...
SEC total/school revenue post expansion will be what? About 30 mil? That is BEFORE the SEC network is off the ground. After the network is up and running, we looking at $45-50 mil/yr minimum. That's in a 14 team league. How much value does adding North Carolina and Virginia markets bring to the table? Another easy $20-30 mil(assuming that we do not try to add them until the SEC network is up and running in 2014)...
So, in essence, these schools could payoff a $50mil debt in one year, and still make the same amount of money they currently get in the ACC. After that first year, it's all profits...
Fact is, the ONLY way the ACC can ever stop us from cherrypicking a few teams when the time is right is for the schools to give their tv rights to the conference ala the Big12. Until that happens, they will always be on the auction block. And that grant of rights will never happen, because of the fiscal irresponsibility of it. The only reason it worked in the Big12 is because you have a bunch of unattractive programs scared of losing their meal ticket, and then you have the Longhorns and Sooners, both of which either have or are working on their own networks for major tier 3 money...
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 1:12 pm
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Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:06 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Give me Josey Wales over mountaintard any day
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:13 pm to TenTex
No, its kinda gross.
I am still pretending like neither are here.
I am still pretending like neither are here.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:13 pm to mograyback
WOW!
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:14 pm to bayou2003
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They might as well not have a baseball program.lol
Yeah, I mean they only won the Big12 Tournament last year.. but yeah.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:17 pm to r2d2
Florida had done a lot less prior to 1990. LSU had only a handful of SEC Titles prior to the '00s. It's ridiculous to say A&M can't win because "Aggies are losers". Yes we have sucked overall and choked like crazy for the last 15 years but we keep coming back.
A&M has 18 Conference Titles, NC's and multiple undefeated seasons. At one point A&M was 56-4-1 at home and didn't lose a conference game for 4 years during our run through the '80s and '90s. We are now far richer and stronger than ever before. We aren't there yet but to act as though it can't happen is just ridiculous. We are the largest school from the largest state in the SEC, the amazing story is how we have somehow managed NOT to win. With the SEC as a financial, exposure, and recruiting advantage over other Texas schools success is inevitable.
Dream your little dream though of Aggie mediocrity if it makes you feel happy but A&M won't stay down for long.
A&M has 18 Conference Titles, NC's and multiple undefeated seasons. At one point A&M was 56-4-1 at home and didn't lose a conference game for 4 years during our run through the '80s and '90s. We are now far richer and stronger than ever before. We aren't there yet but to act as though it can't happen is just ridiculous. We are the largest school from the largest state in the SEC, the amazing story is how we have somehow managed NOT to win. With the SEC as a financial, exposure, and recruiting advantage over other Texas schools success is inevitable.
Dream your little dream though of Aggie mediocrity if it makes you feel happy but A&M won't stay down for long.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:22 pm to r2d2
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All this A&M supposed potential is a myth and complete farce. They had a window of opportunity in the 90’s when OU, UT and LSU whom they recruit head to head against all were struggling simultaneously. They became good; but far from elite. Not even once had a legitimate chance to win a NC with all in their favor.
In the SEC with the competition they face they will have occasional good teams, but will never win the league much lessr a NC.
No team has lost more winnable games where they had a chance to make a statement than them. Specially at home. Names of coaches and players change but their identity remains the same. You are who you are. Aggies are losers.
You don't believe a Goddamn word of any of that bullshite you typed. I will assume it was a troll, but just in case you are this uninformed, let's have a little chat about that, shall we?
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All this A&M supposed potential is a myth and complete farce.
Maybe, but with the fan support, facilities, alumni base, talent pool, history, and current conference affiliation, do you really believe A&M has no advantage over OU or the fricking Longhorns? Look at the recruiting rankings so far. OU is not even in the top 25. They are going to suffer the most from A&M's move to the SEC. The fricking Longhorns are a dumpster fire right now on the recruiting trail and they were BEFORE the season started. RS-J decommitting was the highlight of how things have shifted.
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They had a window of opportunity in the 90’s when OU, UT and LSU whom they recruit head to head against all were struggling simultaneously.
This is bullshite. I know. I was there. All three of those programs had recruiting par with A&M. The sucked because they had shitty coaches.
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They became good; but far from elite. Not even once had a legitimate chance to win a NC with all in their favor.
You are probably about 20 years old aren't you?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:26 pm to aggressor
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aggressor
Lets back it up some..
17 of 18 Conference Titles came when you were playing in the equivalent of a Conference USA. How many of the NCs are self proclaimed?
I'm starting to like you Aggies, but let's not go overboard here.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:30 pm to aggressor
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Dream your little dream though of Aggie mediocrity if it makes you feel happy but A&M won't stay down for long.
No one knows the future for sure, even Ole Miss can win big one day I guess but....I'm dreaming?!
What you stated has been said multiple times over the years. Results are the same. Who is dreaming?
Oh! and you don't have "NC's". You have ONE legitimate from an era that is completely irrelevant in determining current success.
This post was edited on 10/23/12 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:33 pm to mograyback
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Yeah, I mean they only won the Big12 Tournament last year.. but yeah.
Oohh yeah, you get a point for that one, forgot about that. You got me
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:35 pm to mograyback
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17 of 18 Conference Titles came when you were playing in the equivalent of a Conference USA.
WTF??? You have to be kidding me. The SWC was strong, do you not realize the talent in that state. Equivalent of Conference USA, you lost all credibility. Bye.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:35 pm to r2d2
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Oh! and you don't have "NC's". You have ONE
You are just flat out incorrect here. We have 2.
The 1919 is recognized by the NCAA as being awarded by a legitimate voting group at the time. The fact that we voluntarily CHOSE not to claim it because our 1917 team was screwed doesn't mean that the team wasn't awarded the NC.
They went fricking unbeaten and unscored upon (for the second time in 3 years) in 1919 and you don't think they are legitimate champs?
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:36 pm to KaiserSoze99
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You don't believe a Goddamn word of any of that bullshite you typed. I will assume it was a troll, but just in case you are this uninformed, let's have a little chat about that, shall we?
Whow! Truth hurts I guess.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:42 pm to bayou2003
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WTF??? You have to be kidding me. The SWC was strong, do you not realize the talent in that state. Equivalent of Conference USA, you lost all credibility. Bye.
The SWC was okay.. you're right it was no conference USA, I was only being half serious with that.
It really only had UT and Tamu as major universities though. Rice, Baylor, SMU, Ark. Later on Houston and TCU.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:42 pm to BigAggie06
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They went fricking unbeaten and unscored upon (for the second time in 3 years) in 1919 and you don't think they are legitimate champs?
So what did you do to celebrate that Championship at the time?
Sad you have to go back 100 years to trick your mind into thinking your program is relevant. Very sad.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:45 pm to mograyback
Pecking order in SWC (As far as success)was
Texas>Arky>A&M>rest
Texas>Arky>A&M>rest
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:47 pm to r2d2
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Sad you have to go back 100 years to trick your mind into thinking your program is relevant. Very sad.
Not what I am saying at all, of course 1919 isn't relevant, no Aggie would say that it is. But you are claiming that we don't have a legitimate claim for the 1919 title based off of no substantive evidence.
You can say we have been irrelevant for the past decade plus all you want but don't go reinventing history to fit your narrative.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:50 pm to BigAggie06
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You can say we have been irrelevant for the past decade plus all you want but don't go reinventing history to fit your narrative.
It is still strange that for a while you didn't claim that championship and now you do, but fair you make a valid point in that statement.
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:56 pm to r2d2
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t is still strange that for a while you didn't claim that championship and now you do,
Supposedly it has been in pour media guide for quite a while but I am not certain. But think about the era.
1917-Undefeated unscored upon, no NC awarded
1918-Entire team + head coach goes to WWI
1919-Team returns and goes undefeated and unscored upon again and is awarded a NC.
I can very easily see an all male military school saying "screw you guys"
Posted on 10/23/12 at 1:59 pm to mograyback
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Yeah, I mean they only won the Big12 Tournament last year.. but yeah.
:alreadystated:
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quote:They might as well not have a baseball program.lol
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