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re: Are we sleeping on A&M?
Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:38 am to aggressor
Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:38 am to aggressor
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If you didn't know though, the one type of joke Aggies will NOT tolerate is jokes about Bonfire. Call us gay, joke about how we are a bunch of weirdos, whatever. That's all good fun. Just don't ever joke about Bonfire. If you do it in person you will be lucky not to get the crap kicked out of you. The wound is still not healed and never will be with the older Ags for certain.
Well said ... the only people who ever bring this up as a joke are Longhorns, Baylor Bears, and a certain faction of Tech fans.
It is akin to making a joke of the Texas clock tower shooting or the Virginia Tech shootings for us. People died, nothing funny about it.
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Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:40 am to BigAggie06
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Baylor Bears
By far the worst about Bonfire jokes in my experience. For all their flaws I've never heard a Bonfire joke from a Longhorn in person.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:42 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
The Longhorns who make the jokes are generally the younger crowd and/or t-shirt fans in my experience.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:42 am to GoldenBoy
yes, but it's because they suck
Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:45 am to BigAggie06
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The Longhorns who make the jokes are generally the younger crowd and/or t-shirt fans in my experience.
Very true
Posted on 9/27/12 at 10:55 am to reel_gator8
The key for Manziel is how much he can grow and develop. He has thrown more downfield the last 2 games but the emphasis has been to keep him controlled and not to have turnovers with his reckless play style. So far he hasn't had one and that is why he is the starter. He can throw deep but he doesn't have a cannon. Mainly he is going to throw deep either if someone is wide open behind the D or if he is throwing a fade to Mike Evans who is 6'5 and can jump about 40".
UF did an outstanding job of making Manziel uncomfortable in that 2nd half and having him choose between throwing deep into single coverage or trying to beat a stacked line. He chose the latter and failed. If he can figure out how to overcome that and throw downfield effectively though? Hide the women and children because you can't stop him. If you drop guys into coverage and don't stack the box he will eat your lunch. If you have to go to a zone defense it's over as well. A&M's offense really gets explosive when they get the athletes into space, you don't want to try to catch them in the open field, you have to shut it down at the LOS.
UF did an outstanding job of making Manziel uncomfortable in that 2nd half and having him choose between throwing deep into single coverage or trying to beat a stacked line. He chose the latter and failed. If he can figure out how to overcome that and throw downfield effectively though? Hide the women and children because you can't stop him. If you drop guys into coverage and don't stack the box he will eat your lunch. If you have to go to a zone defense it's over as well. A&M's offense really gets explosive when they get the athletes into space, you don't want to try to catch them in the open field, you have to shut it down at the LOS.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:05 am to aggressor
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aggressor
Wow, I didn't know so much went into the bonfire. Thats pretty cool, I'm sure its hard to describe into words vs actually being there. I agree, jokes about something like that are uncalled for. There were some Katrina jokes going around, classless
This post was edited on 9/27/12 at 11:07 am
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:35 am to aggressor
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The Bonfire disaster hit me far harder than even 9/11. I spent many a night up on that stack in the wee hours. It's like a part of all Aggies died that night. I will say that the next few days when I went to donate blood in Austin and was surrounded by Longhorns doing the same it made me incredibly grateful, as did their super classy band performance at the game.
In my mind that's the only halftime the Aggie Band has ever lost. First time I ever saw my dad cry was the day of the Bonfire game--and he cried multiple times.
I grew up going to Bonfire--my dad's an Ag (class of '83), but he grew up in Bryan so every year for Thanksgiving we'd have a family reunion down there and two things the family always did was go to Bonfire and then either go to or watch the texas game. It was the sort of experience that stuck with you whether you were a student or just an observer. The loss of campus bonfire shook the university to its very core, and I don't think many people outside Aggieland can really understand how deep that wound is.
I'm a pretty nice guy who gets along with everyone, but the closest I've ever come to wringing another person's neck was in Waco a few years ago hearing some fratty young baylor retard make quips about Bonfire. Like aggressor said, joke about us being gay, weird, cultish, whatever, but that's over the line for us.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:44 am to oleheat
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LSU-A&M is a natural. We recruit against them, work with them, live next to them.
Truth. I'm surrounded by LSU peeps in my office and at my plants in Lake Charles and Geismar. That week is going to be fun; I even pity the poor bastards that are fans of other schools who get in our way at work.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:46 am to LSUEnvy
Those are equally classless!
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:48 am to BigAggie06
Hurts almost as badly today as it did that hideous November morning.
The families of the 12 lost are friends of many of us. They--and we-- still grieve unspeakable grief.
Indeed, Bonfire "jokes" originate from the lowest scum of humanity. I wish nothing but the worst for those who choose to utter them.
The families of the 12 lost are friends of many of us. They--and we-- still grieve unspeakable grief.
Indeed, Bonfire "jokes" originate from the lowest scum of humanity. I wish nothing but the worst for those who choose to utter them.
This post was edited on 9/27/12 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:57 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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For all their flaws I've never heard a Bonfire joke from a Longhorn in person.
That's the thing. Real students/graduates from Texas are normally pretty decent people. It's the shite-throwing, t-shirt crowd that can't hold back the nonsense. They have no real ties to the university and could care less about tarnishing its reputation. Usually, its one of the following types in order of frequency of their Agsessed vitriol (dropping Bonfire jokes, etc.):
1. Baylor shits who are mad at A&M (couldn't get in to either A&M or UT). They hate A&M because tax-payer dollars supplement tuition for A&M students while these poor shits are paying 3 times that amount for most likely a lesser education (never mind the fact that most Baylor students ARE subsidized by the State of Texas through the TEG and other tax-payer funds). They tend to become closet t-shirt longhorns because Baylor tries to be mini-Texas, sucking that Bevo dong. They will talk shite with all sorts of longhorn authority (until you ask them about their school affiliation, then you get the bullshite story about always being a longhorn fan, and hard luck, etc. kept them out of UT, etc.).
2. Tards. See above X500, but they generally hate both A&M and UT. They just hate. That's all there is to it. They love the Red Raiders above all else and HATE everybody else with a passionate drunken stupor. They are pretty decent people one-on-one, but get these assholes in a group (and especially if alcohol is added), and anything goes. Zero class. In a way, I tend to respect Tards over other shits, however, because they are not t-shirt/closet longhorns like PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY ELSE. They are equal-opportunity classless clowns. I almost (almost) wish we could have brought our retarded little step-brothers with us to the SEC (almost). (Did I mention ALMOST?)
3. Other shits from other schools in Texas that wanted to go to A&M or UT but couldn't get in. These jackasses are like Baylor shits, but they go overboard in their loyalty to UT because UT is the awesomest bestest media darlings. (Cougar High, Smooo, Horny Toads, SHSU Bobcats, Texas State, St. Edwards, UTSA, etc.) These shits overcompensate for their tiny peens with the most vile shite talk you can imagine .
4. VERY FEW (but some) Pigs. I must say that Pigs can get annoying as hell with flagship shite and the hog call, but its generally in fun and most are pretty decent folk. Every group has a few bad apples.
This post was edited on 9/27/12 at 12:03 pm
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:58 am to LSUEnvy
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We have a long history. aTm owned us in the 90's
They owned many teams in the 90's. They almost got the death penalty because of the way they built the teams that owned everyone. But yeah, they were good.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 11:59 am to Haughton99
Haughton, wrong decade. You're thinking of the Sherrill years.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:00 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Tards
For those that don't know, that refers to Texas Tech
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:11 pm to Haughton99
The donor in Dallas who paid Greg Hill for a summer job he didn't do?
No, I'm not ignoring that. But it wasn't a systemic issue.
No, I'm not ignoring that. But it wasn't a systemic issue.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:20 pm to EKG
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You just ignoring the problems in 94 that almost got them the death penalty?
You mean the same thing that OU did a few years ago (paying players for work they didn't do) that got them a slap on the wrist because they're OU?
Did we get caught cheating? Yep. Multiple times. Everyone was cheating back then. But the media in Texas gets out the microscope for cheating whenever someone who isn't "supposed to beat Texas" starts doing so. Baylor is f'ed, even though texas gets the whole Cleve Bryant scandal swept under the rug.
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:21 pm to Haughton99
Yeah, that was a "lack of institutional control" that got us a 1-year TV ban and NO BOWL in a year we most likely would have won the NC. That same violation done by an Oklahoma booster (Big Red Motors) a few years ago, with not one former student (like A&M), but TWO CURRENT STUDENTS got them a slap on the fricking wrist. Interestingly enough, a law professor at the University of Texas served on the infractions committee of the NCAA during all the A&M shite. (EDIT: SWCBonfire beat me to it). 
DO YOU SEE WHY WE ARE frickING GODDAMN CERTAIN THERE IS AN ONGOING CONSPIRACY BY THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN TEXAS AGAINST A&M? They can't let A&M get a leg up, or it's over for most of them and they fricking know it. That's the cause for the EXTREME butthurtedness from longhorns and other shits about A&M's move to the SEC. They can't let A&M hog the spotlight for even a few years or they are fricked.
Alright, conspiracy rant over.
DO YOU SEE WHY WE ARE frickING GODDAMN CERTAIN THERE IS AN ONGOING CONSPIRACY BY THE OTHER SCHOOLS IN TEXAS AGAINST A&M? They can't let A&M get a leg up, or it's over for most of them and they fricking know it. That's the cause for the EXTREME butthurtedness from longhorns and other shits about A&M's move to the SEC. They can't let A&M hog the spotlight for even a few years or they are fricked.
Alright, conspiracy rant over.
This post was edited on 9/27/12 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 9/27/12 at 12:32 pm to Haughton99
The "A&M cheated so they could win" line is pretty tired. EVERYONE cheated in the old SWC, it's just who got caught and how severe the penalty that the Texas folks that ran the NCAA infraction committee handed down would be. Our problems were Charles Allan Wright and the Texas run Dallas Morning News at the time that sent investigative reporters after every rumor they could find on A&M. The real irony is when we got nailed under Jackie they could never prove anything and Jackie refused to cooperate so they essentially hit us with "lack of institutional control" and said if we didn't get rid of Jackie they would give us the death penalty.
The good news is we know no one ever does anything improper in the SEC!
The good news is we know no one ever does anything improper in the SEC!
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