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Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:52 pm to BHMKyle
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A "changing of the guard" does not mean the out-going king completely falls apart the very next season.
That's exactly what it means: there's a dramatic, unequivocal change of some sort.
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But if Georgia can maintain 11-1 regular seasons as the new norm year-end and year-out, if and when Georgia defeats Alabama in a Championship setting, it becomes at the very least debatable as to who's on top at that point. That's the entire point.
This definitively not a changing of the guard scenario.
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So for the insecure Bama fans out there, no one said you were destined for 5 loss seasons going forward.
No, but you did allude to Florida, a program that did actually have a 5 loss season the very next year after it lost to Bama. This was your example.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:53 pm to BHMKyle
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if and when Georgia defeats Alabama in a Championship setting,
You're going to have to sustain it, not merely do it one time. Clemson beating Alabama in 2016 certainly didn't prove to be a "changing of the guard."
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:54 pm to Jake_LaMotta
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But if Georgia does pull the upset, look for it to be the official changing of the guard that is well overdue.
Ole Miss beat us two years in a row. It wasn't a changing of the guard.
NCAA investigations sunk that landshark for you
Posted on 11/29/18 at 2:57 pm to BHMKyle
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A "changing of the guard" does not mean the out-going king completely falls apart the very next season.
The problem is that is the exact situation you compared it to - this isn't "insecure Bama fans" causing people to react this way - it is a comparison to a specific situation which, based on current trends, seems extremely unlikely to follow suit.
The Bama vs. Florida '09 was just a bad example. Accept it and move on.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 3:49 pm to BamaGradinTn
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You made the "changing of the guard" comparison to 2009 Florida
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2009 Florida
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2009 Florida
Let's look at that one more time...
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2009 Florida
So Bama pulled an upset of the favored Florida Gators to dethrone them and go on to win a National Championship in 2009... rightfully staking claim to the new Top Dog of the Conference.
What does that have to do with Florida in 2010, 2011, 2012, or any year after that?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 3:54 pm to coachcrisp
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As I post, I believe Alabama is holding the #1 recruiting class for 2019 AND 2020....what does that tell you?
It tells me Bama has good recruiting classes coming in.
As I post, I see that Georgia pulled in the #1 class in 2018.... with SEVEN 5-star signees compared to Bama's 2.
This year, Alabama currently sits at #1. Georgia is close behind at #3.... but we also have four fewer commitments than Bama and a higher overall quality rating..... so the classes are likely going to be very even.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:27 pm to BHMKyle
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When did I ever state that was where Bama is headed? No one thinks that.
Well I mean, that's the 2nd half of the Alabama/Georgia as Florida/Alabama parallel. That's the part where one ascends and one descends, aka the changing of the guard.
If Florida had shown back up in 2010 and gone 11-1 and gone to the SECCG it wouldn't really have been looked at the way it is today.
That's why I said that in reality I could see Alabama/Georgia much more like Florida/LSU of the mid-2000s.
There wasn't insecurity in the response, it was just following the facts of the comparison, and I was pointing out that is where I think it kind of falls apart.
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So Bama pulled an upset of the favored Florida Gators to dethrone them and go on to win a National Championship in 2009... rightfully staking claim to the new Top Dog of the Conference.
What does that have to do with Florida in 2010, 2011, 2012, or any year after that?
We did not establish ourself as the clear #1 big dog of the conference until 2011, maybe even 2012. If Florida had come back in 2010 and won the SEC then 2009 would have just been us getting them once and winning, and then them winning one, and a battle from there on out.
As it happened, we won in 2009, Auburn in 2010, us and LSU in 2011. We were the most consistent over that 2008-2011 period, but heading into the national title game in 2011 we had won 1 national title and 1 SEC Title - putting us on the same level as Auburn, LSU and Florida over the past 4 years. Like I said, we were WAY more consistently very good than anyone, but it wasn't until we beat LSU in 2011 and won against in 2012 that we truly separated as the elite top dog of the conference with nobody else in our vicinity.
As of 2011, it was still very much the "SEC is awesome" as opposed to "Alabama is awesome".
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:30 pm to BHMKyle
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So Bama pulled an upset of the favored Florida Gators to dethrone them and go on to win a National Championship in 2009... rightfully staking claim to the new Top Dog of the Conference.
What does that have to do with Florida in 2010, 2011, 2012, or any year after that?
Because, now try and stay with me, if Florida had come back and regularly competed for and won SEC Championships in some of 2010, 2011, 2013, etc. - said "changing of the guard" wouldn't have really happened because Bama wouldn't have been the new undisputed top dog of the conference.
There would just be more parity, which is the way it may be trending with UGA vs. Bama in the years to come - although that really still isn't actual parity.
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:39 pm to BHMKyle
quote:Given all that, what would lead you to think there would be any change? I mean, Alabama's GOT the formula for their success while Georgia's still finding theirs.
This year, Alabama currently sits at #1. Georgia is close behind at #3.... but we also have four fewer commitments than Bama and a higher overall quality rating..... so the classes are likely going to be very even.
I'm delighted to have a real challenger out of the East to compete with Alabama for the top spot. Honestly, it's not as much fun without high level competition to test your team's metal.
Posted on 12/2/18 at 4:53 am to BHMKyle
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