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re: Are Tennessee fans legitimately angry about being behind Bama?

Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:58 am to
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:58 am to
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It’s obvious we are comparable


2 last second losses > 2 blowout losses = NOT comparable
Posted by VolNavy98
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:02 pm to
Here you go again not following the criteria set by the CFP. Margin of victory or lose is not to be considered. I didn’t write it the CFP did. We own the Head to head. Beat LSU by 27 sat there own place which is the same LSU team beat. Non the less neither bama or UT getting. I was just simply pointing out the CFP is a joke by not following its own criteria that it set.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:02 pm to
2 wins over #6 and # 14

2 wins over #20 and #24

And the head to head

It’s really not that difficult
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:04 pm to
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TCU could well lose thi


TCU has already beaten KSU once.. KSU would have to beat them by 30 points for it to matter. TCU will eat clock and kept it close at min. They should! TCU is a lock!
Posted by VolNavy98
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:05 pm to
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Posted byMessage3rddownonthe8Are Tennessee fans legitimately angry about being behind Bama? by 3rddownonthe82 wins over #6 and # 14 2 wins over #20 and #24 And the head to head It’s really not that difficult


Bama 0-2 against CFP Top 15
UT- 2-1 against CFP Top 15

Comparable Opponents
LSU and Vandy

Bama is 1-1 while playing Vandy at home
UT is 2-0 while playing both on the road.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 12:06 pm
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:06 pm to
I don’t understand why Vols even care. They think they are better than Bama without Hooker?
Posted by Volatile
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:06 pm to
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I mean… what is there for you that you don’t understand?


We beat them. We beat the one they lost to by 4 TDs. Our SOS is stronger. Every data point favors Tennessee.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:07 pm to
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Here you go again not following the criteria set by the CFP. Margin of victory or lose is not to be considered. I didn’t write it the CFP did. We own the Head to head. Beat LSU by 27 sat there own place which is the same LSU team beat. Non the less neither bama or UT getting. I was just simply pointing out the CFP is a joke by not following its own criteria that it set.



What criteria are you referring to?

The "criteria" has always been pretty subjective as far as I can tell.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:08 pm to
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Margin of victory or lose is not to be considered.


How you lose IS considered. Vols got smash 2x. Bama didn’t.

This is why bama is considered better, and they never went to the “comparable” criteria comparison. Head to head didn’t matter.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:09 pm to
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Every data point favors Tennessee.


Besides the 2 that mattered most
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:09 pm to
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What part of all that does your stupid arse fail to comprehend?

I love psycho.
Posted by rolltiden49ers
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:09 pm to
You’re an idiot! If you want to play the ref game, LSU is the only team that beat us straight up because UTk was gifted the Bama game.

We played UT early in the season on the road and we had our backup QB for the A&M game.
Posted by Volatile
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:10 pm to
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Besides the 2 that mattered most


Head to head right? Because that’s definitely the easiest and most definitive proof that a team is better.
Posted by VolNavy98
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:10 pm to
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They think they are better than Bama without Hooker?

We don’t know if we are or not. All we can go off of is results. We beat Vandy 56-0 without Hooker in the rain and on the road. Bama beat Vandy at home 55-3 with good weather. With all its starters!
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:11 pm to
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We beat Vandy 56-0 without Hooker in the rain and on the road. Bama beat Vandy at home 55-3 with good weather. With all its starters!


could possibly be the most meaningless comparison ever.
Posted by VolNavy98
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:13 pm to
I’ll post it for it straight off its Website.

The criteria to be provided to the selection committee must be aligned with the ideals of the commissioners, Presidents, athletic directors and coaches to honor regular season success while at the same time providing enough flexibility and discretion to select a non-champion or independent under circumstances where that particular non-champion or independent is unequivocally one of the four best teams in the country.

When circumstances at the margins indicate that teams are comparable, then the following criteria must be considered:
Championships won
Strength of schedule
Head-to-head competition (if it occurred)
Comparative outcomes of common opponents (without incenting margin of victory)

By the CFP criteria UT checks every box over Bama.
Posted by VolNavy98
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:15 pm to
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could possibly be the most meaningless comparison ever.

Not really. When you look at the common opponents played. UT beat them by a larger margin with its back up QB than Bama did with its starter. CFP supposed to use outcome of common opponents.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:15 pm to
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Head to head right? Because that’s definitely the easiest and most definitive proof that a team is better.


2 bad losses.

They only go to head to head if the teams are deemed comparable.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:16 pm to
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CFP supposed to use outcome of common opponents.


Only when the 2 teams are deemed comparable
Posted by VolNavy98
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:16 pm to
Bama best win is against a 4 lose team. They are 0-2 against teams in the top 15. You’re right, it shouldn’t be comparable as UT checks every box set by the CFP.
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