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re: Are people honestly upset with the religion and football thing?
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:36 pm to BuckeyeFan87
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:36 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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Wait. He really said this?
He absolutely did not....this board is full of so many lies it's disgusting.
Cam said he WAS God.....which is true.
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:37 pm to HailToTheChiz
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every football team uses religion, if you dont believe that then you are an idiot
coaches get the players to go to church(if they want), preach the "family atmosphere", talk about how they want to influence the kids to be better men, and how they would act as father figures
there is no problem with that, I think a lot of people forget that values that people are taught to grow up with are those same values the church teaches
I got no problem with your above statement under normal circumstances.
But, mention of the name "Bishop Cecil Newton".....
Makes all future reference to religion and Auburn University seem soiled/shady/sullied/stinky/irreverant, etc..
Can you see why people have the reaction they are having?
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:38 pm to HailToTheChiz
I think it is even more sleazy to talk about fake National Championships to recruit players to a school...but that's just me.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:38 pm to HailToTheChiz
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every football team uses religion, if you dont believe that then you are an idiot
Not every program "uses" religion. There might be a lot of religious kids on the team, but that doesn't mean that the coaching staff is actively trying to create a religious environment.
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preach the "family atmosphere", talk about how they want to influence the kids to be better men, and how they would act as father figures
None of that has anything to do with religion.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:39 pm to Tds & Beer
quote:why not?
Religion is not supposed to be involved unless voluntary.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:42 pm to BuckeyeFan87
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Wait. He really said this?
Sure did.
Here is what one Sacramento writer had to say following the NC game:
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God likes the SEC.The brass at Auburn is convinced that the man in the sky is a big fan. In post game interviews, both Cam Newton and coach Gene Chizik suggested that God himself (they noted God is male) is entirely preoccupied with making the World know that both they and Auburn University are incredible entities, which the 21-year-old Newton explained to us is how God displays His own greatness. Indeed, we learned a lot about the Universe on a Monday night in Arizona. Peering into the theories of Newton and Chizik, the entire college football season was a mere game of tiddlywinks by the big man above, a predetermined and intricately orchestrated celebration of the gruff coach and the scandal-laden quarterback, who moments after the game told America that God is personally ‘using me as vessel every single day’. Many now wait with anxious anticipation to see how a vessel of God does on the Wonderlic test.
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Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:44 pm to Robot Santa
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None of that has anything to do with religion.
they way you live your life (values/morals) can be tied to religion
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:44 pm to Monticello
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Many now wait with anxious anticipation to see how a vessel of God does on the Wonderlic test.
I laughed.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:45 pm to justoneword
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Now Cam claiming to be a vessel of God who works through Cam on national television after the national title, that one disturbs me. If you are going to claim to be a vessel for God, then you had better live like Tim Tebow.
I think the hypocrisy coupled with the incessant misplaced praise is what gets to most people. Alot of people got tired of listening to Tim Tebow preach, but I actually really like the guy because in everything he is perceived in, he is always doing the right thing. With Cam, he is a great football player and praises and thanks the Lord, but he doesn't always do the right thing. He made a committment to Florida. He stole a laptop, and he disobeyed an uncanny amount of traffic laws. He can't be blamed for the fiasco at Auburn, but I remember watching videos where he is showing his willy and talking about sex w/ a random girl on a webcam.
I guess if you are going to claim to be a messenger of God and testify publicly to His word then you should live by it. I don't know Cam, and maybe he does live a clean life, but that is not what is perceived by the public.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:50 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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I don't understand the fuss. Nobody is forcing the players to commit Auburn.
You're right. If they have a problem with it, they don't have to go there. But Chiz doesn't run Auburn University. He runs the football team. Everyone that supports Auburn is not a chrisian. I commend whoever tries to put God first if that is their conviction, but it is a state-run institution. How would you feel if you were a christian and the football coach was pushing his Buddhist agenda on your football team. You'd be pissed. If he's in a visit and says, "by the way, once you are on campus, if you are interested, we have a team bible study once a week." That's different. But to push it on a whole team is not how this country works.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:50 pm to Monticello
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Here is what one Sacramento writer had to say following the NC game:
I don't care what some atheist in Cali has to say about a religion they don't understand.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:52 pm to Monticello
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I do think it is kind of sleazy the way they use religion as a recruiting advantage, especially when you can't read a damn quote from an Auburn coach without some reference to God in it. Some parents will see through it, others won't.
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Now Cam claiming to be a vessel of God who works through Cam on national television after the national title, that one disturbs me. If you are going to claim to be a vessel for God, then you had better live like Tim Tebow
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:57 pm to diddydirtyAubie
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I don't care what some atheist in Cali has to say about a religion they don't understand.
The majority of atheists understand the three judaic faiths (as the rest) far better than most who supposedly follow a faith. Christians in particular.
Thus, the reason we are atheists. Education.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 12:58 pm to MattP598
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Now Cam claiming to be a vessel of God who works through Cam on national television after the national title
What kind of vessel of God was Cam when he: stole the laptop or turned in someone's elses paper as his own? That's when he should have been praying.
If he had stolen my laptop, he would have needed God to help him. Don't even try to defend that he didn't know it was stolen, I've seen the police report, and he was given a break, but he the vessel stole it.
I have no problem with coaches having prayer, but I feel that there is a time and place for this, because it could make the kid feel uncomfortable.
Prayer and religion are personal things and people should be able to handle in their own way.
I think it's wonderful if a player is on the team, and he feels like there is someone on staff that he can go to and discuss such things, but in recruiting I think that is weird.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:00 pm to Cruiserhog
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Like you or Chiz understands God...the fricking arrogance of saying something like that is what is offensive to everyone with a rational brain.
I can just see the Lord on high basking in the praise of football players all sweaty after a win...its the heighth of arrogance to assume the winners are more special/deserving in the eyes of the Lord.
Oh and BTW it didnt work out so well for the Lord in the Old Testament when He and his followers came across a tribe with 'chariots of iron'. They got that arse whooped.
I never claimed to "understand God". I claimed that I understand how God and football can easily be combined whereas many such as yourself have no idea what you're talking about. The simple fact that you said that God doesn't care who wins lends the fact that you don't understand. He's not worried about who wins, but that doesn't mean he doesn't care about football.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:05 pm to NBamaAlum
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I laughed.
you would!.....wait, I did too
Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:06 pm to hoginthesw
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The majority of atheists understand the three judaic faiths (as the rest) far better than most who supposedly follow a faith. Christians in particular.
Keep trying.
Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:11 pm to bama my heart
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What kind of vessel of God was Cam when he: stole the laptop or turned in someone's elses paper as his own? That's when he should have been praying.
If he had stolen my laptop, he would have needed God to help him. Don't even try to defend that he didn't know it was stolen, I've seen the police report, and he was given a break, but he the vessel stole it.
I have no problem with coaches having prayer, but I feel that there is a time and place for this, because it could make the kid feel uncomfortable.
Prayer and religion are personal things and people should be able to handle in their own way.
I think it's wonderful if a player is on the team, and he feels like there is someone on staff that he can go to and discuss such things, but in recruiting I think that is weird.
I truly believe Cam is a clueless person - he KNOWs football and that's about all he KNOWs.
- He came into possession of a stolen laptop - but he didn't KNOW it was stolen when he threw it out the window to try to hide the evidence.
- He accumulated a multitude of traffic violations in his 1 yr at FLA - Obviously he didn't KNOW speeding was against the law or he wouldn't have continued to ignore the traffic laws.
- He signed his name on another students paper and turned it in for his own. - Obviously he didn't KNOW he was committing academic fraud or he wouldn't have repeated the same offense again.
- His own father whores him out the highest bidder. But Cam didn't KNOW what the Bishop was doing behind his back.
When I hear people like Cam Newton even mention God in any way, I automatically think of Jim & Tammy Faye Baker or Jimmy Swaggert. Makes me want to
This post was edited on 1/26/11 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:12 pm to HailToTheChiz
football is my religion so no it doesn't bug me
Posted on 1/26/11 at 1:13 pm to HailToTheChiz
We are pissed that you are blatantly cheating yet have the gall to throw God in our faces.
It is hypocritical.
But oh yeah...I forgot...you Barners are in denial about the Cam thing, so disregard.
It is hypocritical.
But oh yeah...I forgot...you Barners are in denial about the Cam thing, so disregard.
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