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re: Are NFL teams allowed to discriminate?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:55 am to RBWilliams8
Posted on 2/10/14 at 1:55 am to RBWilliams8
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How would anyone know if it was bc he was gay?
I guess not.
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And if he wasn't drafted then it's because he wasn't good enough.
The kid is an all american
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Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:13 am to pivey14
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The kid is an all american
Even if discrimination laws applied, there's ways around the fact he is an All-American. Teams could easily say they don't think he fit their system or that they felt other players met their needs better. It would be damned near impossible to prove anything unless an idiot admitted it.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 2:55 am to pivey14
If the dude can play, it won't matter.
It seems like the NFL players "police" these locker room issues on their own. He may be treated rather rudely by some of his teammates but I highly doubt the coaches or ownership give a rip about his sexuality.
Bottom line is no the NFL can not act to discriminate based on any prejudice of religion or sexual preference, so if the dude knocks heads on the field it won't matter what he knocks off the field.
It seems like the NFL players "police" these locker room issues on their own. He may be treated rather rudely by some of his teammates but I highly doubt the coaches or ownership give a rip about his sexuality.
Bottom line is no the NFL can not act to discriminate based on any prejudice of religion or sexual preference, so if the dude knocks heads on the field it won't matter what he knocks off the field.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 4:05 am to Hater Bait
2 things here.
1 op does not understand what the word discriminate means
2 of course nfl teams can discriminate
1 op does not understand what the word discriminate means
2 of course nfl teams can discriminate
Posted on 2/10/14 at 4:36 am to cave canem
San Francisco will eventually draft him if all others pass.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 4:45 am to AuburnTigers
You sound pretty fricking retarded
Posted on 2/10/14 at 4:55 am to pivey14
It is always amazing how people on here speak in such certain terms even when they're wrong and clearly have no basis for what they're saying.
Obviously such a legal case by Michael Sam would be the first of its kind regarding sexual preference. However, he could pursue a collusion suit against the NFL.
Who knows if it would be successful, but the NFL bargaining agreement prevents either side from colluding. The entire league deciding not to draft one player would give rise to a claim for collusion.
Obviously such a legal case by Michael Sam would be the first of its kind regarding sexual preference. However, he could pursue a collusion suit against the NFL.
Who knows if it would be successful, but the NFL bargaining agreement prevents either side from colluding. The entire league deciding not to draft one player would give rise to a claim for collusion.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 6:10 am to pivey14
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if all 32 franchises decided to not draft him (Hopefully this will happen)
Fixed it for ya.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 6:15 am to 7Dollarbill
So are we saying that if dee ford gets drafted before him it is discrimination now?
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:36 am to reservoir_dawg
Good luck with proving the entire league is guilty of collusion.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 7:40 am to pivey14
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That's a good point. I'm as as you are.
Michael Sam can probably assist you with that.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:07 am to pivey14
He'll get drafted because he's a good player. He might not be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round but he'll get drafted. Hope the Chiefs get him. I might not agree with his lifestyle but I love the way he plays.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 8:16 am to bayou2003
This one is going to be interesting.
From a GMs perspective, if he doesn't think that a gay player is going to be good for his locker room, shouldn't he move on to the next player. His job is to win games. He can't do that it he creates locker room stress.
Can't wait to see how all this plays out.
The team that drafts him will have some serious locker room challenges I would think. You can't just scream out "suck my dick" any longer when responding to smart assess.
From a GMs perspective, if he doesn't think that a gay player is going to be good for his locker room, shouldn't he move on to the next player. His job is to win games. He can't do that it he creates locker room stress.
Can't wait to see how all this plays out.
The team that drafts him will have some serious locker room challenges I would think. You can't just scream out "suck my dick" any longer when responding to smart assess.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:19 am to pivey14
It's gotten so trendy as F to come out. Even the radio heads this morning were saying he was "so so brave" - wtf
Just play damn football. Who gives a shite if you are gay or not.
Just play damn football. Who gives a shite if you are gay or not.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 9:56 am to pivey14
Gay or not, he's still a damn good football player. Much respect for him being honest enough to let that out. Who knows what would've happened if a team would've drafted him and "Found Out" instead of him telling them.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:12 am to reservoir_dawg
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Obviously such a legal case by Michael Sam would be the first of its kind regarding sexual preference. However, he could pursue a collusion suit against the NFL.
Because proving that 32 individually owned teams conspired together to make sure none of them drafted him because he's homosexual is sooooo easy.
This post was edited on 2/10/14 at 10:14 am
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:22 am to pivey14
Was Michael Sam invited to the NFL combine? I bet the interview process there will be interesting. I suspect that some GM's and coaches wouldnt draft him just because it will be a media circus and possibly disruptive. Like Tebow.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:38 am to pivey14
Title VII and the ADEA and employment statutes like that may not apply to the NFL, but I'm guessing he could still sue under the Equal Protection clause of the Constitution. He probably wouldn't be able to prove discriminatory intent most likely, but he would most likely be the only SEC defensive player of the year never drafted. Coincidentally, he's the only openly gay player. Doesn't look good for NFL.
Doesn't matter, he will be drafted in the 2nd round.
Doesn't matter, he will be drafted in the 2nd round.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:40 am to pivey14
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quote:Wouldn't be the league's fault that nobody drafted him. Well it is called the "NFL Draft" not the franchise draft. I'm sure there is some clause about that.
it would be a ridiculous precedent. think how many undrafted guys could cry discrimination then?!?!?!
if the black ball him, it would be crap but there wouldn't be a damn thing he could do. That's the point of being brave and coming out.....he has a LOT to lose.
Posted on 2/10/14 at 10:42 am to JaboStokes
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Good luck with proving the entire league is guilty of collusion.
If only there was some sort of precedent where the players in an American professional sports league had won collusion cases against the owners...Oh wait.
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