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Arch Manning vs Julian Sayin

Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:48 am
Posted by Death_By_Cookies
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2026
67 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:48 am
One went to NYC to the heisman ceremony and the other stayed in New Orleans.

One had a conservative rookie start on week 1 while the other saw the same team a second time and still shvt the bed.

One barely lost to an undefeated national championship team and a runner up that was built to beat his team while the other got humiliated by Florida and Georgia.

Why is Arch better again? Please help me understand this narrative.
Posted by gaius julius bevo
Member since Jul 2021
717 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 9:51 am to
You're mad because media pumps Manning up? It is the nature of the beast. Texas (and OSU and about 6 other teams) have the largest of followers so it makes sense to hype their team up and sell ads.

Sayin has been far more successful to this point, but he's also been on better teams than Manning has. I am excited for the game Saturday win or lose.
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7679 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:08 am to
I agree with your post. The media hypes elite programs. I myself think Arch is a good QB but nothing but a title will satisfy the public.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
54210 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:09 am to
I like Arch because I like the Mannings. There! I said it!
Posted by _Hurricane_
Somewhere
Member since Feb 2016
7694 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:12 am to
quote:

I like Arch because I like the Mannings


The Mannings, as an entire family unit, are extremely talented, funny, charitable, and just overall likeable. Archie Manning may go down as one of the greatest fathers in human history

I’m rooting for Arch to win the Heisman, but for Texas to miss the playoffs.
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
3513 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Why is Arch better again? Please help me understand this narrative.


Never said he was but he's a hell of a lot better than he's shown.

The problem isn't Arch and it wasn't Quinn and it won't be the next guy. There is, however, a common denominator but the brainwashed horn fans have a mini-stroke if you point it out.
Posted by SECCaptain
Member since Jun 2025
2716 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:17 am to
I'm not even sure I would define him as "good" yet.

Arch makes a lot of bad decisions, many of which he gets away with due to being inaccurate. e.g. his 2nd TD pass to Coleman should have been an int, he never saw the safety lurking over the middle and got lucky by throwing it high/outside the safeties reach(and no, Arch doesn't have the accuracy to fit balls in that window intentionally)

This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 10:22 am
Posted by BuckI
Grove City, Ohio
Member since Oct 2020
7679 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:25 am to
Arch should have played for Kiffin. That's not a knock-on Sark but just my opinion.
Posted by Death_By_Cookies
North Carolina
Member since Aug 2026
67 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:33 am to
I love how yall can’t understand that Arch is handicapping your team. If he plays like shite, the press rewards him with attention. Sark is forced to revolve the team around him regardless.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 10:35 am
Posted by Old1937
Member since Jun 2024
1432 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:34 am to
Watch football and you will understand.
Posted by BigDaddySims
Deridder
Member since Nov 2016
720 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:35 am to
Because of his last name!
Posted by hookem33
Belton, Tx
Member since Jun 2022
3513 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:37 am to
quote:

I'm not even sure I would define him as "good" yet.

Arch makes a lot of bad decisions, many of which he gets away with due to being inaccurate. e.g. his 2nd TD pass to Coleman should have been an int, he never saw the safety lurking over the middle and got lucky by throwing it high/outside the safeties reach(and no, Arch doesn't have the accuracy to fit balls in that window intentionally)


ok not trying to flame I want to ask a serious question. Quinn had a lot of the same issues. He never really developed into the QB he was supposed to be.

At what point do we lay the blame at his coach who is supposedly a "QB Guru"? Serious question. Everyone wants to blame the QB but why do so many in our fan base want to give sark a pass? Arch has been in Sark's system for 4 years now and, at times, still plays like he's a true freshman. What am I missing here?

I'm sure this won't be well received but I'm genuinely curious why Sark gets a pass on this.
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 10:38 am
Posted by SECCaptain
Member since Jun 2025
2716 posts
Posted on 9/8/26 at 10:42 am to
I don't think it's necessarily a matter of coaching with Arch, the generational QB talent was never there to begin. Elite build and a good athlete, but the arm talent is missing and his coordination/footwork has always been clumsy. Quinn had the talent but never fully developed it, Arch simply doesn't have it imo

I really don't know what scouts are watching when they talk about him going #1 overall. Go watch Mensah, Maiava or even Hoover throw the ball. It's night and day
This post was edited on 9/8/26 at 10:45 am
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