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re: Apparently there are tapes Auburn- rut rohhhhhh
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:46 am to thisoneworks
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:46 am to thisoneworks
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But correct me if im wrong here, but isnt pretty much all of auburns BOT got the feds crawling up their arse? Espescially from colonial bank?
Bank goes under? Feds come in?.....is that about right?
No way in hell that an ONGOING federal investigation into all these dudes who HAPPEN to be running the show at the barn is not gonna show a "paper trail" pertaining to "slush funds".
Other than Bobby Lowder, what members of Auburn's BOT have the feds "crawling up their arse"? And why are the feds investigating Lowder and Colonial?
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Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:47 am to Tds & Beer
Dammit I got sucked back into this Cam Newton crap again and wasted an hour of my life. 
If he is guilty he will get what's coming to him, and so will AU, until then to hell with it. Gotta get back to work now.
If he is guilty he will get what's coming to him, and so will AU, until then to hell with it. Gotta get back to work now.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:48 am to Alahunter
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He just posted what is out there.
Don't encourage him Hunter
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:48 am to AUnite
you need a bigger stick midnite....like one about the size of a telephone pole.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:49 am to Monticello
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I have a very solid source when it comes to MSU's involvement up until when they stopped recruiting Newton.
LOL Miss. St. stopped recruiting Newton huh? Right.
This whole thread is a joke. You are posting info from Scott "Updyke" Moore. Sad
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:50 am to RT1941
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What's to stop every other recruit and their parents from doing the same exact thing. Especially in light of the fact that NO ONE will suffer any consequences for such deplorable actions?
I really don't understand why I, you, or anybody else SHOULD GIVE A shite as long as no money changes hands.
I mean, really? You're SHOCKED that people try to get stuff? You're SHOCKED that programs continue to recruit players who have their or their family's hands out?
How many of the GREAT players in your programs history do you think may have had their hand out either during their recruitment or their playing years (whether they got anything or not)?
If you think the answer to that question is "zero", you are incredibly naive.
And if you think the answer to that question is "greater than zero" yet you think that those players either did not or likely did not get a damn thing, than I ask again: why do you give a shite who asks for what as long as no money or goods change hands?
If your program is so sainted that they don't want players with their hands out or players whose families have their hands out, then they should stop recruiting such players. I'm betting not a single program in the SEC goes by that philosophy.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:51 am to RT1941
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That's bullshite! The fricking NCAA ruled the textbook players eligible to fricking play ball - so Bama played them. Then the NCAA came back later and vacated the games the players played in...
Incorrect. Once Alabama self reported the textbook incident, the NCAA told UA to sit the players 5 games. The vacated wins all came previous to the 5 game suspension. That is why the UT win still stands but the games previous to that do not. No games were vacated once the players returned.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:51 am to auburntiger77
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ALABAMA gave them extra benefits
No, BAMA discovered a loophole and corrected it and reported it.
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So lets assume CAM knew (I do not think the tapes show that), so according to you, he NCAA will conduct an investigation of Auburn and say, even though you had ZERO way of knowing
If the NCAA feels Auburn should have known, they could be busted. Chiz coming out defending Cecil and within the week, Cecil admitting he shopped his son is looking a little more damaging to the investigation Auburn conducted themselves. It gives the appearance they did nothing and wanted people to believe what they said, and not actually look into their actions of what they actually did to investigate what Miss St turned in.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:53 am to RT1941
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Amen! And a Bama fan knows how the 'AA deals with this shite.
Yeah... Bama fans know how to "deal with this shite" alright. Just ignore the NCAA when they've ordered as part of your punishment to vacate wins.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:53 am to AUnite
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Don't encourage him Hunter
I wasn't. But the radio guy is making rounds today on other stations reporting that he heard the tapes, and at least one other guy from another station said he heard them too. Having said that, nothing is going to be determined for a long time and it's probably gonna be a long time before the tapes come out.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:54 am to beatbammer
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Just ignore the NCAA when they've ordered as part of your punishment to vacate wins.
whut?
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:55 am to thisoneworks
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Its really sad how barners try to convince themselves that all is well.
Strictly from an outside perspective, it seems that the cam newton stuff is just a side note. Sure, hes a typical dumbass kid with a peice of garbage father who shops his son like a slave and hides behind religion. Basically the sterotypical crooked pastor or whatever.
But correct me if im wrong here, but isnt pretty much all of auburns BOT got the feds crawling up their arse? Espescially from colonial bank?
Bank goes under? Feds come in?.....is that about right?
No way in hell that an ONGOING federal investigation into all these dudes who HAPPEN to be running the show at the barn is not gonna show a "paper trail" pertaining to "slush funds".
And when all this is tied to a bank that has gone under? The NCAA will be the last to get any evidence or info, because the same practices that put money in those players hands and their daddies are also considered things like money laundering, embezzlement etc etc. Ya know, "white collar crime"
To sum up my long arse post......the feds dont frick around. They do what they want, when they want and the barns BOT has the feds up their arse. The cam newton thing is NOTHING.
The SEC, NCAA, and whoever else you want to throw in those categories just wishes it would have went away.
Dont get me wrong though. All schools pay players. Its just that auburn is "all in" with their BS. Its quite pathetic actually. An obvious panic move due to SABAN. Its more pathetic to see a barner actually believe that auburn isnt this stupid. History proves otherwise.
Theres a difference between following the rules and respecting the rules. Once the feds start following the money then why not go "all in"
Excellent synopsis!
It ain't fricking COINCIDENCE that there's smoke creeping out of every crevice in the AU program.
This post was edited on 2/25/11 at 11:55 am
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:55 am to Squid
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Oh, geez. Here we go. Somebody has a "source."
He has been 100% accurate since he told me of what happened with Newton as it relates to MSU back in December 2009. He no longer has any association with MSU though so no new info.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:56 am to Tds & Beer
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Ok let's assume the tapes are 100 percent legit. They do not prove Auburn paid money, so the records stand
they can prove that they offered though
How so?
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:57 am to The ChizMan Cometh
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Like I said earlier a good lawyer would argue Cecil may have said Cam was in the room, but how long was he in the room, and how involved was he in the discussion. If his actual voice doesn't appear on the tape discussing money or any knowledge of the plan, Cecil simply saying he is in the room means very little.
That is possible, but don't confuse NCAA procedure and burden of proof with criminal procedure and the beyond reasonable doubt standard.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:58 am to beatbammer
quote:Because it's against the rules maybe
I really don't understand why I, you, or anybody else SHOULD GIVE A shite as long as no money changes hands.
quote:Probably some/a good many/all? I don't know. But I do know that those players should never have played a down if they did. And if LSU were caught with something like that we would deserve anything coming to us.
How many of the GREAT players in your programs history do you think may have had their hand out either during their recruitment or their playing years (whether they got anything or not)?
quote:I'm curious, does that make such behavior right or appropriate?
If your program is so sainted that they don't want players with their hands out or players whose families have their hands out, then they should stop recruiting such players. I'm betting not a single program in the SEC goes by that philosophy.
We should just allow people to break the rules becuase "everyone does it"?
Posted on 2/25/11 at 11:59 am to AUCatfish
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Other than Bobby Lowder, what members of Auburn's BOT have the feds "crawling up their arse"? And why are the feds investigating Lowder and Colonial?
I guess I just made all that up
Posted on 2/25/11 at 12:00 pm to CoonassBulldog
I'm all teased out on the whole Cam story.
If tapes exist and people have them, release them.
If tapes exist and people have them, release them.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 12:00 pm to auburntiger77
Dude you just don't get it. If an ineligible player plays in a game, the game gets vacated. It is that simple. It does not matter if the institution knew the player was ineligible. If Cam Newton was aware of his father's actions, he was ineligible from that moment on.
Posted on 2/25/11 at 12:01 pm to Thracken13
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it was a good post - but not all of us are dismissing anything - a lot of us are taking the wait and see approach to all of this.
cool, maybe I shouldn't lump all of you together
Ok I don't feel like looking back. who said they had the source? when did we "stop" recruiting him? this is something I've been interested in finding out.
This post was edited on 2/25/11 at 12:03 pm
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