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re: Anyone remember when Kramer got hit in the mouth?

Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:12 pm to
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I legitimately have never heard of it in a racial sense


Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:14 pm to
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Actually I know it does.

Everybody assumes racism now. The term is used to describe a ghost,ghoul, gobblin,Halloween decorations are spooks as well




It doesn't hold water. He said he was looking like a spook, in a thread about a guy who got hit in the mouth and has a huge fat lip as a result - while posting a pic of the fat lip.

It's pretty fricking clear what he meant.

And the fact that some of you LSU fans are trying to deflect is just as bad.
This post was edited on 4/26/21 at 10:15 pm
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:17 pm to
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It's pretty fricking clear what he meant.

And the fact that some of you LSU fans are trying to deflect is just as bad.


Bingo
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:25 pm to
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It doesn't hold water. He said he was looking like a spook, in a thread about a guy who got hit in the mouth and has a huge fat lip as a result - while posting a pic of the fat lip.

It's pretty fricking clear what he meant.

And the fact that some of you LSU fans are trying to deflect is just as bad.


As Early unintentionally pointed out, it is an extremely obscure slang racist term and regardless of what you may think, I honestly was not aware of any racial connotations associated with the word.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:30 pm to
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it is an extremely obscure slang racist term


So obscure you are apparently the only one here who hasn't heard of it. Deflect away, my good little racist.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:34 pm to
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So obscure you are apparently the only one here who hasn't heard of it


I would assume I'm a bit younger than most of the folks here.

I was also homeschooled so I assume I was exposed to a lot less of this type of thing than most of the folks here.

But nevertheless, it is what it is, I won't edit it because my intentions weren't bad and my interpretation of the word is quite a bit more mainstream than the obscure slang meaning you immediately thought of.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:41 pm to
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my interpretation of the word is quite a bit more mainstream than the obscure slang meaning you immediately thought of.




And yet your "interpretation" still makes zero sense in light on the context it was used in.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:45 pm to
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And yet your "interpretation" still makes zero sense in light on the context it was used in.


How so?

With his face busted up like that, Kramer looked like some kind of crazy person escaped out of a haunted house out there playing baseball.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:52 pm to
And instead of calling him a crazy person or a monster or any of a hundred other terms, you specifically used that term.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 10:59 pm to
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And instead of calling him a crazy person or a monster or any of a hundred other terms, you specifically used that term.





Yes, because that word is widely regarded to mean the same thing.

I saw a dude whose face was fricked up, with blood and snot running down, looking like a horror movie and used a mainstream term for what that could be considered.

You saw a fat lip and immediately jumped to an obscure, racial, slang meaning of that same word.

It's none of my business what meanings your mind jumps to the quickest, I've stated my honest intentions and am now calling it a night
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:01 pm to
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because that word is widely regarded to mean the same thing.


Except, again, you're the only one here that sees it that way.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:03 pm to
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Except, again, you're the only one here that sees it that way


It's the literal meaning of the word.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:06 pm to
No one is arguing what the word can mean. It's obvious what you meant in context. Which is also a literal meaning of the word.

Go to bed little one and take a break from the deflecting for a while.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:10 pm to
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It's obvious what you meant in context. 


Well that's an exercise in futility since no one can be 100% sure of what I meant except for me.

Anyone can make an assumption, an assumption can also be wrong.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:13 pm to
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You may have not known it was offensive by some weird deal, but you damn sure used it to mean a black person.


Actually, no.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:16 pm to
I don’t really have a dog in this fight but I’ve only ever known “spook” to mean two things: a CIA agent and a racist term for a black person. And I didn’t know the CIA thing until recently.. and I’m 31 for reference.

Tbh when I first read the OP I thought it was racist as shite.. with the term and the photo.

But this thread is an interesting case study I guess..
Posted by tenacious
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:23 pm to
I gotta admit... I cringed hard when I read it the first time, and I’m as white as a ghost (see what I did there?). I had to read it a few times just to make sure I read it correctly. Very unfortunate choice of words, but I’m going to try to believe that you’re not actually insane enough to knowingly write something like that in a public forum on purpose. Just learn from this, and never use the word spook again to describe someone with a fat lip. Like, ever.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:23 pm to
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I don’t really have a dog in this fight but I’ve only ever known “spook” to mean two things: a CIA agent and a racist term for a black person. And I didn’t know the CIA thing until recently.. and I’m 31 for reference.



I 100% have never heard of it before but I am actually kind of glad I found out here.

Much better here than to have something I say misconstrued at work or something.
Posted by tenacious
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:29 pm to
Honestly, man, I’d take this post down. Just apologize and take it down. People are going to keep reading it the exact same way that I did, and you’re going to keep trying to explain it away, and it’s just going to cause more friction. I can’t get in your head. Only you can. If you say you were trying to describe his ghoulish appearance, I will give you the benefit of the doubt. But most won’t. I’d just remove it if I were you.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
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Posted on 4/26/21 at 11:30 pm to
Glad I was able to finally educate your ignorant arse on something.
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