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re: Anyone following this Danny Kanell saga?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:56 am to Taurus 357
Posted on 12/6/17 at 7:56 am to Taurus 357
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Maybe the Big Ten should go back to scheduling a Mercer or a Troy if that is how the resumes will be perceived. Not taking a shot at any particular team, but you have to admit that a padding your stats game looks better in the W-L column
I just hope you're not making an argument that the BIG generally plays tougher schedules than the SEC- as that would be absurd. With that said, if you're saying no one should schedule FCS teams: I agree wholeheartedly. That is shameful and frankly I wish the Power 5 would strictly schedule each other. Also want to point out that you just glossing over the fact that OSU played UNLV is a little dishonest- they are way worse than Troy.
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:32 am to Taurus 357
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This. If for any other reason that Kanell thinks this was for TV, did he not see the 2011 BCS title game? That had the worst ratings in the BCS era. The committee made the decision based on wins and losses. Total number of wins and losses. Two losses for OSU looks a lot worse, despite their top 15 wins. Maybe the Big Ten should go back to scheduling a Mercer or a Troy if that is how the resumes will be perceived. Not taking a shot at any particular team, but you have to admit that a padding your stats game looks better in the W-L column.
You got blown out twice. You benefited from a strong out of conference schedule last year when you didn't when your conference, but this time you didn't. Just be better and stop whining.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:43 am to YoSoyDeleeshus
quote:You're absolutely right! This clown doesn't realize that the more teams you put in a playoff scenario, the more teams there'll be on the fringes of elimination. Hell, basketball has 64 teams and each year there's a ton of teams crying about not getting in at the end of the year!..it fixes NOTHING!
Horrible post. Your blind hate of Bama is telling.
This guy must be a democrat...if 4 of something is bad, then 10 should be better!
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:56 am to secuniversity
While I believe Bama is better than Wisconsin, I don't see why/how Wisconsin was undeserving of discussion with a L while Bama is unequivocally better than OSU/Wisc
Wisconsin has a better "L" to #5 OSU by 6
Bama has a worse "L" to #7 AU by 12
Bama has 2 top 25 W vs #17 LSU & #23 MSU
Wisconsin has 1 top 25 W vs #21 Northwestern
Wisconsin avg game 33.8 - 13.2
Bama avg game 39.1 - 11.8
Wisconsin 10/12 W by double digits
Bama 9/11 W by double digits
Wisconsin has a better "L" to #5 OSU by 6
Bama has a worse "L" to #7 AU by 12
Bama has 2 top 25 W vs #17 LSU & #23 MSU
Wisconsin has 1 top 25 W vs #21 Northwestern
Wisconsin avg game 33.8 - 13.2
Bama avg game 39.1 - 11.8
Wisconsin 10/12 W by double digits
Bama 9/11 W by double digits
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 8:57 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 8:58 am to TeLeFaWx
You know that I'm talking about the show that comes with the committee right? ESPN is hurting for ratings, you know that right?
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:01 am to GenesChin
OSU's 2 losses vs Bama's 1 loss...JMO but had the barn beat UGA then they were in with 2 losses and the committee may have been given the opening to put OSU in with those 2 losses as well and used the Championship Teams as their selling point.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:05 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
I'm just kind of upset that "on paper" Bama and Wisconsin aren't very distinguishable
I'd put Bama in over Wisconsin, but it is kind of a sham that Wisconsin wasn't even in the discussion as a 1L team due to their resume, yet Bama has nearly identical resume and is #4
I'd put Bama in over Wisconsin, but it is kind of a sham that Wisconsin wasn't even in the discussion as a 1L team due to their resume, yet Bama has nearly identical resume and is #4
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:07 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
I highly doubt it... if anything, an Auburn win in atl would’ve made bamas loss look better.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:16 am to GenesChin
quote:Wisconsin was in the discussion. They finished #6 behind #5 Ohio State (which beat them), and #4 Alabama who yourself said should rank above them, so....
I'm just kind of upset that "on paper" Bama and Wisconsin aren't very distinguishable
I'd put Bama in over Wisconsin, but it is kind of a sham that Wisconsin wasn't even in the discussion as a 1L team due to their resume, yet Bama has nearly identical resume and is #4
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:31 am to coachcrisp
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Wisconsin was in the discussion.
No they weren't, the CFP committee didn't even mention them when talking about Alabama > Ohio State
The narrative was always that Wisconsin misses out if they don't win the Big10 championship due to their weak schedule. We saw that as they were consistently rated below teams with losses and that narrative held true
I just don't see why Bama didn't have close to that narrative as well. They were also talked about potential CFP pick even w/ AU loss while Wisconsin was immediately dropped with similar resume
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:38 am to GenesChin
quote:Stop and think a second. How could you tout Wisconsin for a playoff spot ahead of tOSU after tOSU had just beaten them on the field for the BIG championship? Even the Fox talking-head, BIG homers weren't talking about Wisconsin AFTER their loss to tOSU.
No they weren't, the CFP committee didn't even mention them when talking about Alabama > Ohio State
The narrative was always that Wisconsin misses out if they don't win the Big10 championship due to their weak schedule. We saw that as they were consistently rated below teams with losses and that narrative held true
I just don't see why Bama didn't have that narrative as well.
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 9:39 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 9:57 am to GenesChin
Question since I never watched any of the rankings shows or committee interviews...
I thought the whole point was to put the 4 BEST TEAMS in the playoffs. Is that not the reason they "lock themselves in a room" every Saturday watching games together? I always believed the "eye test" was an explicit part of their decision making.
I thought the whole point was to put the 4 BEST TEAMS in the playoffs. Is that not the reason they "lock themselves in a room" every Saturday watching games together? I always believed the "eye test" was an explicit part of their decision making.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:22 am to AlterDWI
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I always believed the "eye test" was an explicit part of their decision making.
What makes the "Eye test" valid for Bama but not Wisconsin beating up on the little sisters of the poor? Let's not pretend the SEC or SECW was good this year
Anyone looks good beating up teams with losing records, just look at undefeated UCF who is undefeated, 2 top 25 W like Bama and dominated their schedule at #10
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:30 am to GenesChin
Obviously, it isn't Bama's fault that FSU/SEC was a dumpster fire compared to avg quality. Bama didn't do anything wrong. I just don't want name brand schools to start playing cupcake schedules knowing that dominating cream puffs, 1-2 decent wins + a quality loss is "enough"
It is going to be in school's best interest to schedule middle tier P5 opponents and survive their conference slate as long as their brand name/reputation is big enough
Why should Alabama schedule teams like FSU/expected top 5-10 programs again when they can get in by beating the North Carolina, Purdue and Kansas Sts of the world?
It is going to be in school's best interest to schedule middle tier P5 opponents and survive their conference slate as long as their brand name/reputation is big enough
Why should Alabama schedule teams like FSU/expected top 5-10 programs again when they can get in by beating the North Carolina, Purdue and Kansas Sts of the world?
This post was edited on 12/6/17 at 10:32 am
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:33 am to secuniversity
Kanell and Cowturd are arse clowns . both hates the SEC
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:49 am to GenesChin
Eh , the SEC had a down year and is sending 2 teams to the big dance. That tells you all need to do.
Wisconsin / OSU / Insert Big 10 team here would get boat raced by any of the teams in the playoff AND by Auburn or LSU.
OSU got shite on by Iowa and Wisconsin is worse than OSU.
Wisconsin / OSU / Insert Big 10 team here would get boat raced by any of the teams in the playoff AND by Auburn or LSU.
OSU got shite on by Iowa and Wisconsin is worse than OSU.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 10:51 am to GenesChin
Everyone uses the excuse that FSU would be a lot better with their QB. Thats what all the Fisher homers say. Bama shite on them WITH their QB. Final rankings isn't indicative of where FSU was at team wise when Bama played them.
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:42 am to BDJ
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Eh , the SEC had a down year and is sending 2 teams to the big dance. T
This is my point though. The incentive is going to be for no SEC teams to play meaningful OOC games, because it doesn't benefit them by winning but hurts them to lose
Let's look at UGA which does a good job of illustrating my point
The win @ #14 Notre Dame in no way helped UGA make the CFP. It did not help elevate them into the CFP and in a typically year, a 1L SEC Champ will always make CFP based on how committee has always voted
But...
If UGA had lost to Notre Dame, UGA would have a legit argument whether or not they should be in the CFP as a 2L team with a blowout on their record.
So why should any SEC team schedule hard OOC games? It is in our interest to pad our resume with middling P5 opponents like Arizona State, North Carolina, Kansas St or Nebraska. Teams that have a "name" but aren't close to competitive with us
As a fan, that is very very bad. Watching your team win is fun, but the quality of scheduling is almost for sure going to go down
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:45 am to GenesChin
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While I believe Bama is better than Wisconsin, I don't see why/how Wisconsin was undeserving of discussion with a L while Bama is unequivocally better than OSU/Wisc
Hornigoat
Posted on 12/6/17 at 12:06 pm to Atxgump
Is Kannel still on TV? I thought he was done.
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