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re: Another anti rematch commentary - ESPN's Rick Reilly

Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:15 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:15 pm to
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Is that how it went down?
According to the Jason Bourne-esque spies I have over in Alabama:
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Saban called up ESPN and said, "look mfers, y'all are going to interview me before, during, and after the SECCG. Aight. Got it? Good.
That is exactly how it went down.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:17 pm to
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If they are in the same conference and division of said conference, then yes, losing to #1 disqualifies you.

Why play a game where the outcome has already occurred?


So you're saying that Oregon was entitled to a rematch if THEY got to #2 even though LSU already beat them and according to Rantard logic they can't be #2?
Posted by WItidefan
Tuscaloosa AL
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:17 pm to
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Good teams can have one bad game

Ok, so Alabama's "one bad game" was against LSU, and Ok. St.'s was against Iowa St. Advantage Bama.

I guess we will see if Bama is just a "decent team" or not Jan. 9th.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:18 pm to
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So you're saying that Oregon was entitled to a rematch if THEY got to #2 even though LSU already beat them and according to Rantard logic they can't be #2?
Exactly. I think you are finally catching on.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34861 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:19 pm to
Saban obviously has a good relationship with ESPN. He's using it to his advantage to get as much exposure he can for Bama. He's got his little puppets Rece and Robert Smith cramming Bama down everyone throats every chance they get. He scratches their back, they scratch his.

He's pretty diplomatic, IMO.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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47697 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:19 pm to
Sup' Scruffy?

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I have to say, I'm having more fun trollin' this board than a gump who found dentures.


Oh yeah
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:20 pm to
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Alabama's "one bad game" was against LSU
You must've misread. Alabama's "one great game" was playing up to the level of LSU. The rest of the time, you guys are decent.
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Ok. St.'s was against Iowa St.
That was their bad game.
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I guess we will see if Bama is just a "decent team" or not Jan. 9th.
You guys have to get in first, but since the outcome of Nov. 5 already shows that LSU is the better team, there really isn't a reason to play. LSU will just win again.
This post was edited on 12/1/11 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9129 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:21 pm to
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C'mon guys. I am fairly sure everyone understands his point regardless of your personal belief. You are choosing not to understand because his opinion differs from your opinion. At this point there is only one fact regarding rankings and that LSU and UH are the only undefeated FBS schools.


I understand his and the other anti-rematchers insanely illogical point just fine. The problem with that logic is that using it means that all 1 loss teams should be out of the running for #2 and LSU should be playing Houston. If a loss disqualifies 1 team then it disqualifies all the teams with a loss. The BCS title game should be LSU vs. Houston based on Reilly's logic.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:22 pm to
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Ok, so Alabama's "one bad game" was against LSU, and Ok. St.'s was against Iowa St. Advantage Bama.


And Okie's "good games" were against Texas, Oklahoma, Baylor, Missouri, and K-State.

Alabama's were against Arky and Penn state.

Advantage Okie
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:22 pm to
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The BCS title game should be LSU vs. Houston based on Reilly's logic.
Sounds good to me. Lets get this party started.
Posted by WItidefan
Tuscaloosa AL
Member since Oct 2011
79 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:23 pm to
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but really, is it more difficult to have quality wins or quality losses?

It depends on how the games were played. To me, losing to LSU by 3 in OT is much more impressive than beating Kansas St. 52-45 (one of Ok. St.'s quality wins) because this shows that Alabama is pretty even with LSU, while Ok. St is only slightly better than Kansas St., and LSU >>>>> Kansas St.
Posted by WItidefan
Tuscaloosa AL
Member since Oct 2011
79 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:26 pm to
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The rest of the time, you guys are decent.

So that means that LSU was only decent in almost all of their games, because Alabama and LSU had very similar scores in all of their common games
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
26339 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:27 pm to
I'm pretty much now convinced...If OSU beats OU and VaTech loses, there's no doubt in my mind it will be OSU vs LSU in the BCSCG.

I don't think VaTech has to lose (as I think Okie State passes Stanford and VaTech anyway on all ballots with a win over OU), but if VaTech does lose, it cements it as a done deal IMO that it'll be OSU-LSU.
This post was edited on 12/1/11 at 2:28 pm
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:27 pm to
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It depends on how the games were played. To me, losing to LSU by 3 in OT is much more impressive than beating Kansas St. 52-45 (one of Ok. St.'s quality wins)


So a 3 point home loss is better than a 7 point home win?

Really?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:28 pm to
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So that means that LSU was only decent in almost all of their games, because Alabama and LSU had very similar scores in all of their common games
We couldn't blow everyone out of th water. Think of the other player's psyches.

Haven't you heard of the CLM mercy knee?
Posted by WItidefan
Tuscaloosa AL
Member since Oct 2011
79 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:29 pm to
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So a 3 point home loss is better than a 7 point home win?

Really?

When the 3 point loss (in OT) is to LSU and the 7 point win is against Kansas St., yes.
Posted by lsuroadie
South LA
Member since Oct 2007
8401 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:29 pm to
With all these deserving teams, you still think Alabama should get another chance? You want Kris Humphries and Kim Kardashian to remarry, too


Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72216 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:30 pm to
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When the 3 point loss (in OT) is to LSU and the 7 point win is against Kansas St., yes.
You aren't making any sense here. One team won and the other team lost. I'm pretty sure I'd go with the team that won.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:30 pm to
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When the 3 point loss (in OT) is to LSU and the 7 point win is against Kansas St., yes.


Really?

Read that again as objectively as you can.

Really????
Posted by WItidefan
Tuscaloosa AL
Member since Oct 2011
79 posts
Posted on 12/1/11 at 2:34 pm to
All I'm saying is that because Alabama's loss is so much more forgivable than Ok. St.'s loss, it doesn't matter that Ok. St. has a few more "quality wins".

Alabama's full body of work shows that they are the better team, which is why they deserve the #2 ranking and the rematch.
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