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re: All-Time SEC Big 3 Rankings (UPDATED)
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:02 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Thing of how many postseason games you have to win to get a natty. Think of how many excellent teams you have to beat just to get to the championship series. Then you have to beat what is clearly the next best team in the country 2 out of 3 times. Meanwhile, you can get into the NCAA baseball tournament without being good enough to get into the SEC baseball tournament at Hoover.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:04 pm to ZeusStamos
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Thing of how many postseason games you have to win to get a natty. Think of how many excellent teams you have to beat just to get to the championship series. Then you have to beat what is clearly the next best team in the country 2 out of 3 times. Meanwhile, you can get into the NCAA baseball tournament without being good enough to get into the SEC baseball tournament at Hoover.
That's all true, but it also shows how you should be punished by not getting any points compared to 1-3 pts if you DON'T make the NCAAT. IMHO there is some sort of negative for being so bad in most years you don't even make it to the NCAAT, which as you noted is very easy to get to. So you can either deduct points or assign a slightly larger amount to making the NCAAT (1-3).
But to each his own - I do agree the National Title should probably be more like 25 or 30.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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BIG 3 AVERAGE SEC RANK
T1. Florida
T1. LSU
T3. Alabama
T3. Arkansas
T5. Texas A&M
T5. Missouri
Will the real Big-6 please stand up?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:16 pm to MSHawg1
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Will the real Big-6 please stand up?
Mizzou sheesh
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Can I just say, George, that it is an honor to be in a tie with the University of Alabama on this list.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:27 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But to each his own - I do agree the National Title should probably be more like 25 or 30.
Personally, I think we should add additional points in certain years that really stand out. An example would be football in 1964, basketball in 1994 and baseball in 1979 and 2018
Posted on 3/11/19 at 5:58 pm to WilliamTaylor21
How are you "daddy" if tied with Fl.?
Posted on 3/11/19 at 6:11 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Go sit down little bro!! Before big bro bitch slaps you.
We may let our sister give you a noogie.
This is last years all sports standings. Where is LSU? Ouch!!
Place School Total # of
Part. teams Points Quotient
1 Florida 208 159 0.76442
2 Georgia 212 145.5 0.68632
3 Texas A&M 204 131 0.64216
4 Arkansas 198 113 0.57071
5 South Carolina 204 114 0.55882
6 Auburn 212 117.5 0.55425
7 Tennessee 200 104 0.52000
8 Kentucky 208 106.5 0.51202
9 Alabama 208 104 0.50000
10 LSU 208 99.5 0.47837
11 Vanderbilt 151 69 0.45695
12 Mississippi 178 78.5 0.44101
13 Mississippi State 178 77 0.43258
14 Missouri 195 79.5 0.40769
Men
Place School Total # of
Part. teams Points Quotient
1 Florida 92 75 0.8750
2 Texas A&M 92 61 0.6630
3 Auburn 92 59.5 0.6467
4 Georgia 92 58 0.6304
5 Arkansas 82 51 0.6220
6 Alabama 92 50 0.5435
7 Tennessee 92 48 0.5217
8 Kentucky 92 45 0.4891
9 Mississippi State 82 39 0.4756
10 LSU 92 43.5 0.4728
11 Mississippi 82 37.5 0.4573
12 Vanderbilt 69 31 0.4493
13 South Carolina 92 40.5 0.4402
14 Missouri 79 30 0.3797
Women
Place School Total # of
Part. teams Points Quotient
1 Georgia 120 87.5 0.7292
2 Florida 116 84 0.7241
3 South Carolina 112 73.5 0.6563
4 Texas A&M 112 70 0.6250
5 Arkansas 116 62 0.5345
6 Kentucky 116 61.5 0.5302
7 Tennessee 108 56 0.5185
8 Auburn 120 58 0.4833
9 LSU 116 56 0.4828
10 Alabama 116 54 0.4655
11 Vanderbilt 82 38 0.4634
12 Mississippi 96 41 0.4271
13 Missouri 116 49.5 0.4267
14 Mississippi State 96 38 0.3958
We may let our sister give you a noogie.
This is last years all sports standings. Where is LSU? Ouch!!
Place School Total # of
Part. teams Points Quotient
1 Florida 208 159 0.76442
2 Georgia 212 145.5 0.68632
3 Texas A&M 204 131 0.64216
4 Arkansas 198 113 0.57071
5 South Carolina 204 114 0.55882
6 Auburn 212 117.5 0.55425
7 Tennessee 200 104 0.52000
8 Kentucky 208 106.5 0.51202
9 Alabama 208 104 0.50000
10 LSU 208 99.5 0.47837
11 Vanderbilt 151 69 0.45695
12 Mississippi 178 78.5 0.44101
13 Mississippi State 178 77 0.43258
14 Missouri 195 79.5 0.40769
Men
Place School Total # of
Part. teams Points Quotient
1 Florida 92 75 0.8750
2 Texas A&M 92 61 0.6630
3 Auburn 92 59.5 0.6467
4 Georgia 92 58 0.6304
5 Arkansas 82 51 0.6220
6 Alabama 92 50 0.5435
7 Tennessee 92 48 0.5217
8 Kentucky 92 45 0.4891
9 Mississippi State 82 39 0.4756
10 LSU 92 43.5 0.4728
11 Mississippi 82 37.5 0.4573
12 Vanderbilt 69 31 0.4493
13 South Carolina 92 40.5 0.4402
14 Missouri 79 30 0.3797
Women
Place School Total # of
Part. teams Points Quotient
1 Georgia 120 87.5 0.7292
2 Florida 116 84 0.7241
3 South Carolina 112 73.5 0.6563
4 Texas A&M 112 70 0.6250
5 Arkansas 116 62 0.5345
6 Kentucky 116 61.5 0.5302
7 Tennessee 108 56 0.5185
8 Auburn 120 58 0.4833
9 LSU 116 56 0.4828
10 Alabama 116 54 0.4655
11 Vanderbilt 82 38 0.4634
12 Mississippi 96 41 0.4271
13 Missouri 116 49.5 0.4267
14 Mississippi State 96 38 0.3958
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:11 pm to rockiee
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Personally, I think we should add additional points in certain years that really stand out. An example would be football in 1964, basketball in 1994 and baseball in 1979 and 2018
Seems unbiased and well thought out imho iyam
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Why? Because it hurts Georgia? Making the tournament is a widely agreed upon general sign of low level success in a season. It would be dumb as hell to ignore that.
It is today but he's not entirely wrong about NCAAT appearances. Tennessee had several very good seasons before the tournament expanded but never made the tourney prior to it expanding because Kentucky.
Also using the AP only for football is bullshite and you know it. It would be different if you were describing the modern era but not *all time.*
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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BIG 3 AVERAGE SEC RANK
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T5. Missouri
Pleasantly surprised. I’ll take it!
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:40 pm to Prof
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Also using the AP only for football is bull shite and you know it.
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Tennessee Fan
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:50 pm to Prof
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It is today but he's not entirely wrong about NCAAT appearances. Tennessee had several very good seasons before the tournament expanded but never made the tourney prior to it expanding because Kentucky.
So did Alabama, Vanderbilt and several others. There's probably argument for inclusion of the NIT pre-1970 or something like that, but in the end it wouldn't change a whole lot.
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Also using the AP only for football is bull shite and you know it. It would be different if you were describing the modern era but not *all time.*
I mean, if there is a better metric I'd be happy to use it. Clearly I have no bias here as anyone puts my group #1
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:53 pm to SummerOfGeorge
He's pissy because a) the AP only gives UT credit for 2 titles and b) it has UF ahead.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:55 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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T1. Florida T1. LSU 3. Arkansas 4. Alabama T5. Texas A&M T5. Missouri
Big 6
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:57 pm to Korin
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He's pissy because a) the AP only gives UT credit for 2 titles and b) it has UF ahead.
If I was pissy I would've roasted him for including baseball at all.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Only postseason accomplishments were used as regular season records and championships have changed as teams have changed leagues and times have changed.
I like it. Nice work.
Would you please put the total points for each school next to their name for each sport?
for example, Bama could have 3 times as many points as the next best team in football. I suspect Kentucky blows the doors off everyone in basketball.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 7:58 pm to Prof
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Also using the AP only for football is bullshite
This is one of those threads in which anyone can take a certain angle and call it bullshite by some metrics. You never win in these threads.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:00 pm to BrerTiger
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Would you please put the total points for each school next to their name for each sport?
for example, Bama could have 3 times as many points as the next best team in football. I suspect Kentucky blows the doors off everyone in basketball.
Sure, no problem.
Posted on 3/11/19 at 8:00 pm to rockiee
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This is one of those threads in which anyone can take a certain angle and call it bullshite by some metrics. You never win in these threads.
This is true but in all honestly I'd say that doing AP only is fine post-1970 but before that you've got to look around. The AP and Reuters have only fairly recently become unquestioned monoliths.
Plus, I'm just a contrary motherfricker.
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