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re: Alabama working to finalize Home-and-Home series with Notre Dame and Texas
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:18 pm to Irons Puppet
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:18 pm to Irons Puppet
Ummmm...so SABAN actually won the championship, not the team...ok. 
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Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:35 pm to coachcrisp
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Ummmm...so SABAN actually won the championship, not the team...ok.
I know you are not that stupid (I hope not). Give good coaches enough time (6 weeks) and they can beat anyone. That is why you do not see Saban lose one of those KO Classics. The second game in the Playoff is more of a crap shoot, which is why the last three championship games have been so close.
What was Bama's best win in the regular season ?
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:44 pm to Irons Puppet
Tenn, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Fla. St.....they were all pretty impressive....Why?
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:49 pm to Irons Puppet
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Give good coaches enough time (6 weeks) and they can beat anyone
Is this why Gus is O-fer bowl games? (LOL, don't bring up Birmingham bowl win over a coachless Memphis team)
Posted on 3/25/18 at 6:54 pm to coachcrisp
Pretty impressive teams?
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:34 pm to Irons Puppet
We beat a top-3 rated team (at the time) in Fla. St. and went through an SEC schedule, and 2 OOC teams that went to bowls, all with 1 loss....what's your point?
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:36 pm to coachcrisp
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We beat a top-3 rated team (at the time) in Fla. St. and went through an SEC schedule, and 2 OOC teams that went to bowls, all with 1 loss....what's your point?
FSU sucked. Bama's best win was MSU, and they barely beat them.Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:42 pm to Irons Puppet
Pretty sure their best win was Georgia...
Posted on 3/25/18 at 7:51 pm to Irons Puppet
Fla. St. didn't suck going into the Alabama game...without their QB, they imploded.
You seem to actually be trying to sell the idea that the committee that was formed explicitly to pick the best four college football teams in the country were wrong when they picked the winner of the playoff.
Do you have any idea how biased, short sighted and...well.. stupid that makes you appear to everybody on this board? It also taints any opinion that you may want to share with the rest of us on other things...but that's your decision, so...
You seem to actually be trying to sell the idea that the committee that was formed explicitly to pick the best four college football teams in the country were wrong when they picked the winner of the playoff.
Do you have any idea how biased, short sighted and...well.. stupid that makes you appear to everybody on this board? It also taints any opinion that you may want to share with the rest of us on other things...but that's your decision, so...
Posted on 3/25/18 at 8:02 pm to coachcrisp
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Fla. St. didn't suck going into the Alabama game...without their QB, they imploded.
No, they were whipped at every other position against average ACC teams. Losing their QB just made them a bad team. That is one of the reasons Jimbo got the hell out of there.
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You seem to actually be trying to sell the idea that the committee that was formed explicitly to pick the best four college football teams in the country were wrong when they picked the winner of the playoff.
And you are arguing that the ends justified the mean (even when it was obviously flawed). Again, Saban could have taken a very average team and made it competitive in a 4 game invitational tournament. Could have taken Ole Miss and have a chance to win it all, and you would say they were the best.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:09 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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USCw plays only 1 G5 team (early) and no FCS.
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Correct, but they play Arizona State and Cal every year. Those are basically half an FCS game each.
Just like 9 of the 10 Big 12 schools don't get to bitch about FCS schools because they play Kansas.
The SEC had 8 teams (8/14=58%) with 7 wins or less (incl. 9 FCS games) in 2017. The PAC12 had 7 teams (7/12=57%) with 7 wins or less (incl. only 5 FCS games) -- and the PAC12 plays one more conf game. The PAC12 was 1-7 in bowls. The SEC was 2-5 in bowls (excl. CFP). 4 of Bama's 8 SEC opponents weren't bowl eligible and Bama's other 4 SEC opponents went 1-3 in bowl games.
2018 Schedules (2017 W-L)
So Cal -- Bama
ND 10-3 -- AU 10-4
Stan 9-5 -- LSU 9-4 (lost to ND)
WSU 9-4 -- Miss St 9-4
Texas 7-6 -- Louisville 8-5
UCLA 6-7 -- ATM 7-6 (lost vs UCLA)
Ariz 7-6 -- Ole Miss 6-6 (lost at Cal)
ASU 7-6 -- Mizzou 7-6 (lost to Texas)
Utah 7-6 -- Arky 4-8
Cal 5-7 -- Tenn. 4-8
Col 5-7 -- Ark St. 7-5
UNLV 5-7 -- ULL 5-7
OrSt 1-11 -- Citadel 5-6
Totals 78-75 -- 81-69 (difference: OrSt 1-11)
I just took a quick swag at that, so I may not have all of the pairings aligned just right, but overall Bama's 12 opponents don't seem to be much (if any) better than USC's. But, if you replaced The Citadel with USCe (9th SEC), Bama's resumé would be much improved.
At the top, UA and UGA are better than USC and Wash. Otherwise, neither conference appears to be much (if any) better than the other right now.
The PAC12 plays 9 conf games and filled 8 bowl slots. The SEC(14) plays 8 conf games and filled 9 bowl/CFP slots (Ole Miss banned). The SEC can play a 9th conf game and still fill its bowl slots, if weaker SEC teams schedule 3 beatable non-conf opponents. There is no need to be scared of playing 9 conf games.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 1:10 am
Posted on 3/26/18 at 12:31 am to TidalSurge1
Case Can Be Made For Strengthening SEC Football Schedules
The B1G, Big12 and PAC12 play 9 conf games.
The ACC and SEC only play 8 conf games.
The B1G has banned playing any FCS teams.
2018 Schedules:
Ohio St: 11 P5 - 9 conf, Ore St, @TCU, Tulane
So Cal: 11 P5 - 9 conf, UNLV, @Texas, N Dame
Oklahoma: 10 P5 - 9 conf, FAU, UCLA, Army
Clemson: 10 P5 - 8 conf, Furman, ATM, GaSo, SC
Alabama: 9 P5 - 8 conf, Lville, ArkSt, ULL, Citadel
Georgia: 9 P5 - 8 conf, Peay, MTSU, UMass, GT
(Yeah, I know Oreg St has been terrible lately.)
I'm all-in for playing 9 conf games and dropping the FCS games. With permanent cross-division rivalry games, there's only a single 8th slot for rotating the other 6 cross-division teams. It takes 6 YEARS to rotate back on the schedule. That's ridiculous! With a 9th SEC game we'd play all 6 rotating teams in 3 years, with only a 2-year gap between a rotating team's home/away flipside.
Example - Bama's SEC cross-division schedule:
(9th SEC game replaces week-12 FCS game)
Years - 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024
Week-6 @SC, vsGA, @ FL, vsSC, @GA, vs FL
Week-8 vsTN, @TN, vsTN, @TN, vsTN, @TN
Week12 vsKY, @VB, vsMO, @KY, vsVB, @MO
2019 Schedule with 9 SEC Games (rotations)
Week-1 ns Non-conf P5 team (neutral site)
Week-2 vs G5 team
Week-3 vs Ole Miss
Week-4 at Texas A&M
Week-5 vs G5 team
Week-6 at S Carolina (GA, @FL, SC, @GA, FL)
Week-7 vs Arkansas
Week-8 vs Tennessee (no rotation)
Week-9 OPEN DATE
Week10 vs LSU
Week11 at Miss State
Week12 vs Kentucky (@VB, MO, @KY, VB, @MO)
Week13 at Auburn
Week14 ns SEC Title Game
Simple schedule change and it's so much better.
Of course it'll be more complicated to work out all of the 9 SEC game schedules and rotations for all of the SEC teams, but it can be done.
The B1G, Big12 and PAC12 play 9 conf games.
The ACC and SEC only play 8 conf games.
The B1G has banned playing any FCS teams.
2018 Schedules:
Ohio St: 11 P5 - 9 conf, Ore St, @TCU, Tulane
So Cal: 11 P5 - 9 conf, UNLV, @Texas, N Dame
Oklahoma: 10 P5 - 9 conf, FAU, UCLA, Army
Clemson: 10 P5 - 8 conf, Furman, ATM, GaSo, SC
Alabama: 9 P5 - 8 conf, Lville, ArkSt, ULL, Citadel
Georgia: 9 P5 - 8 conf, Peay, MTSU, UMass, GT
(Yeah, I know Oreg St has been terrible lately.)
I'm all-in for playing 9 conf games and dropping the FCS games. With permanent cross-division rivalry games, there's only a single 8th slot for rotating the other 6 cross-division teams. It takes 6 YEARS to rotate back on the schedule. That's ridiculous! With a 9th SEC game we'd play all 6 rotating teams in 3 years, with only a 2-year gap between a rotating team's home/away flipside.
Example - Bama's SEC cross-division schedule:
(9th SEC game replaces week-12 FCS game)
Years - 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024
Week-6 @SC, vsGA, @ FL, vsSC, @GA, vs FL
Week-8 vsTN, @TN, vsTN, @TN, vsTN, @TN
Week12 vsKY, @VB, vsMO, @KY, vsVB, @MO
2019 Schedule with 9 SEC Games (rotations)
Week-1 ns Non-conf P5 team (neutral site)
Week-2 vs G5 team
Week-3 vs Ole Miss
Week-4 at Texas A&M
Week-5 vs G5 team
Week-6 at S Carolina (GA, @FL, SC, @GA, FL)
Week-7 vs Arkansas
Week-8 vs Tennessee (no rotation)
Week-9 OPEN DATE
Week10 vs LSU
Week11 at Miss State
Week12 vs Kentucky (@VB, MO, @KY, VB, @MO)
Week13 at Auburn
Week14 ns SEC Title Game
Simple schedule change and it's so much better.
Of course it'll be more complicated to work out all of the 9 SEC game schedules and rotations for all of the SEC teams, but it can be done.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 1:38 am
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:05 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Non conference.. top 10 programs facing each other is rare.
Name all of the top 10 programs aggy has played more than 5x’s as non conference opponent. Factor in your not even close to being a mutual blue blood.
Of 115 eligible non conf opponents TX is the 5th most common vs Bama. That’s pretty fair by any reasonable standard.
Name all of the top 10 programs aggy has played more than 5x’s as non conference opponent. Factor in your not even close to being a mutual blue blood.
Of 115 eligible non conf opponents TX is the 5th most common vs Bama. That’s pretty fair by any reasonable standard.
This post was edited on 3/26/18 at 1:13 am
Posted on 3/26/18 at 1:54 am to OldSchoolHorn
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Of 115 eligible non conf opponents TX is the 5th most common vs Bama. That’s pretty fair by any reasonable standard.
Besides the Bama vs Texas BCS game, hasn't it been a long time since we played. And some of those were bowls games. Bama and Texas should play more often, imo.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:27 am to TidalSurge1
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The B1G has banned playing any FCS teams.
Nope,its been lifted
And UGA does get back to 10 P5 games in '19 and '20
Posted on 3/26/18 at 2:51 am to TidalSurge1
H/H every other decade at a minimum would be ideal.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 3:38 am to OldSchoolHorn
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Name all of the top 10 programs aggy has played more than 5x’s as non conference opponent
LSU - 50 times as a nonconference opponent
Oklahoma - 14 times as a nonconference opponent
Posted on 3/26/18 at 5:56 am to Irons Puppet
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What was Bama's best win in the regular season
Beating Auburn.
I know your feeble brains are thinking along the lines of "But muh Iron Bowl win", but that game was Auburn's 9-6.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 6:13 am to coachcrisp
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Do you have any idea how biased, short sighted and...well..stupid that makes you appear
There's a reason I refer to him as Stupid Puppet and it's not because he is 12 years old either.
Posted on 3/26/18 at 7:44 am to VABuckeye
Ohio State does play a lot of teams around the country...
However, Alabama has played in the north almost twice as much as Ohio State has played in the south.
LINK
Ohio St is (5-11-1) against SEC
Average score: Ohio St 19.2 - SEC 24.6
In bowl games: Ohio St is (2-10) against SEC
However, Alabama has played in the north almost twice as much as Ohio State has played in the south.
LINK
Ohio St is (5-11-1) against SEC
Average score: Ohio St 19.2 - SEC 24.6
In bowl games: Ohio St is (2-10) against SEC
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