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re: Alabama running back reputation could drag down Derrick Henry in Draft

Posted on 4/24/16 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by BhamDore
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 7:36 pm to
LSU has 1 starting RB in the NFL. He played in all 16 games and averaged 3.6 ypc. He did not gain 100 yards in any of the 16 games he played in. He lost his team a playoff game single handily. Bama has better Rbs than LSU.

Henry stole LF31's Heisman. LF31 with the best O-line in the nation with multiple early draft picks managed 1.6 ypc.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 7:41 pm to
Boom. they're Lil bro 2.0
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 7:46 pm to
I could have sworn a guy named Alfred Blue ALSO started last year for 9 games while the Ricky Wiiliams of Knoxville was hurt?

Extrapolate his numbers over a 16 game season and whatcha got?

You had me fooled, Vandy Guy. They said you guys were smart. I have no idea what the frick you are even doing here anymore.:
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 7:46 pm
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 8:13 pm to
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LF31 with the best O-line in the nation with multiple early draft picks managed 1.6 ypc.
Why do Alabama fans constantly judge Leonard Fournette based on one game against Alabama? The offense is handicapped every week because of Les Miles and a non-existent passing game in the first place.

Jesus Christ, this is almost as retarded as them saying Tyrann Mathieu was garbage because Kevin Norwood "dominated" (laughable) him in the National Championship Game. And now, after being one of the best defensive playmakers in college football history, he's also one of the best secondary players in the NFL. Dude can play corner, nickel and safety and excels in every phase.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 8:52 pm to
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Go ahead and name another source that analyzes football as close as ProFootballFocus.

Hint: there isn't one.
yes there is, football outsiders for one. And you know who im sure did some very close analysis of dre kirkpatrick's performance in 2015? The Bengals (one of the top defenses in the nfl), before they decided to pay him about the same for his 5th year as the previous 4 put together, with the benefit of knowing what was actually supposed to happen on each play. PFF is essentially a murky black box of an eye test playing around like a real metric
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 8:56 pm
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 8:59 pm to
SEC champ. Check
Heisman trophy. Check
First team All-American. Check
Most outstanding college athlete. Check
National Championship. Check

Never lost to LSU
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:01 pm to
What?
Posted by Errerrerrwere
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:08 pm to
When in doubt:
Posted by nc14
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:10 pm to
You watched the game? Punk had his clothesline arse handed to him. Over and over again.
Posted by MetryTyger
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:46 pm to
Restomod didn't WRITE that. It was a qoute.
And it was a pretty dumb quote at that. WTF Henry has to do with completely different backs from the past is beyond me.
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/24/16 at 9:55 pm to
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MetryTyger


How's life, Metry?
Posted by DawgGONIT
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 6:10 am to
Yep but you still gonna ignore the 405 touches last season? That is insane, especially for college. NFL RB's don't rush the ball close to that amount. In fact here is a good chart to show the rushes by NFL rbs. DH only had 11 receptions, so that makes it 394 rushing attempts in 15 games. That comes out to 26.26 rushes a game. The leading RB in the NFL average was 22.8 by Leveon Bell and we saw what happened to him.

That is the whole point of the article, that Bama RBs get over used in college. Luckily DH was only over used for just 1 season. But the stigma that Bama does over work their players in college, does seem true. You ain't gotta get all butt hurt over it.
This post was edited on 4/25/16 at 6:27 am
Posted by StopRobot
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 8:18 am to
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Regardless, Henry will have a chance — in Cleveland or elsewhere — to show that he’s more like Mark Ingram and Eddie Lacy than Trent Richardson. Given that Ingram and Lacy have had their share of struggles in the NFL, Henry should be aiming even higher.


So more Bama RBs have been successful than have not somehow translates into Bama RB rep dragging Henry down. Got it
Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:15 pm to
2015 is the only year where Bama hasn't had a true RB tandem. The stigma is fabricated.

You only posted Henry's touches in 2015. Everyone knows those were rare circumstances. Kamara, and Tennpenny both left the team. Bo Scarborough tore an ACL and Kenyan Drake was recovering from an injury. DeSherrius Flowers was ruled inelgible after enrolling and practing for months. The only viable option was a true freshman who played highschool ball in Kentucky.

In 2008 Glen Coffee lead Bama in carries with 233 carries.

In 2009 Ingram won the Heisman on 271 carries.

2010 Mark Ingram lead the team with 158.

Trent Richardson in 2011 with 283 carries.

Eddie lacy led with 204 in 2012.

Yeldon lead in 2013 with 207 carries.

He lead again in 2014 with 194 carries.

Henry's carries are clearly an anomaly.



Posted by bmy
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:28 pm to
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Henry's carries are clearly an anomaly


Yep. And him breaking 2k yards is an anomaly too. 5.6 ypc
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:54 pm to
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Richardson was the worst of the bunch. He had no vision whatsoever and got by on his brute force.

Henry has size & vision but limited lateral quickness and low initial burst.

He's a classic 1-cut runner but his first NFL OL will make or break his career.
All of this is accurate. Yeldon has great NFL potential IMO.
Posted by stevo1905
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 1:55 pm to
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sports science measured henry as having the fastest initial acceleration of any player at any position in the last 4 drafts
He doesn't play that way on the field.
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:24 pm to
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You only posted Henry's touches in 2015.


If you can read, I said that the good thing is that he only was overused for 1 season. So there was no need to post his previous seasons as he never came close to 400 touches.


I love how you say it is an anomaly to get 400 carries, which is true, but that still doesn't take away from the fact that Henry was overused. It isn't a concept that is hard to understand here.

Also consider that DH had 2 games with only 13 and 9 rushes. Is it also an anomaly for Henry to rush the ball over 30 times 3 times and for him to run the ball over 40 times in 2 games. For an anomaly, these high arse rushing attempts seem to happen pretty frequent.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:49 pm to
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Yep. And him breaking 2k yards is an anomaly too. 5.6 ypc
you say this like 5.6 ypc is bad. Are you possibly retarded?
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
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Posted on 4/25/16 at 3:50 pm to
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He doesn't play that way on the field.
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