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re: Alabama hasn't had a meaningful snap by the top defensive recruit in the last 4/5 classes

Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/9/20 at 6:58 pm to
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They were inexperienced, which limited the effectiveness of the defense. This year will be more reflective of their real talent and potential, or Golding's potential to call a defense at a high level, or both.


Btw, all this I agree with. Really looking forward to next years defense.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
20293 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 7:48 pm to
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You guys don't go to the Alabama forum here very much do you?

It ebbs and flows. I am a bit broader in perspective than some may be. But, the vocal "anti-Golding" crowd is really just a few. And, the player bashing group is more just running jokes and mob mentality (isolated still) based in hyperbole from small sample sizes; and half serious most of the time. I don't think many at all really have it out for the players as a whole to define them as "trash."

Most "problems" are not simplistic in nature when organizational synergy is at play and any variety of personnel factors are input to add complexity to the nature of the environment.

I'm also fairly level headed, so I do not get overly emotional, antagonistic, or defensive. That has likely been your friction point when trying to engage on the Bama board. Just being honest from my outside observation; not trying to be a dick.

I think some have given Lee a bad rap. But, I also firmly believe that if there was a better option, CNS would have played him. So, he was the best available and obviously doing his best. What more can one ask for? I'm not for bashing kids who are giving their all.

That said, starting 7 true freshmen players in certain pkgs of a very complicated D scheme is impossible to manage well in SEC football. Golding does not seem to have or inculcate the killer instinct and accountability of years past, but last year was really not a great gauge.

This year will flesh out where the D talent level and D coaching levels are really at.
This post was edited on 3/9/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30738 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:15 pm to
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It ebbs and flows. I am a bit broader in perspective than some may be. But, the vocal "anti-Golding" crowd is really just a few. And, the player bashing group is more just running jokes and mob mentality (isolated still) based in hyperbole from small sample sizes; and half serious most of the time. I don't think many at all really have it out for the players as a whole to define them as "trash."

Most "problems" are not simplistic in nature when organizational synergy is at play and any variety of personnel factors are input to add complexity to the nature of the environment.



I agree, it's mostly over there that I hear it at all. And I've never been a fan of bashing players who are giving their best, it's pretty annoying.

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I'm also fairly level headed, so I do not get overly emotional, antagonistic, or defensive. That has likely been your friction point when trying to engage on the Bama board. Just being honest from my outside observation; not trying to be a dick.


It's fine, I know I'm blunt and abrasive.

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I think some have given Lee a bad rap. But, I also firmly believe that if there was a better option, CNS would have played him. So, he was the best available and obviously doing his best. What more can one ask for? I'm not for bashing kids who are giving their all.


He was definitely out of position and took bad angles at times. But I think he was out there more for the mental part than the physical part. He ended up having to be the guy who called the defense and IIRC he played more snaps than any other defensive player all year. I think he will end up better than people expect with more time in the program. He had a ton shoved on him.

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That said, starting 7 true freshmen players in certain pkgs of a very complicated D scheme is impossible to manage well in SEC football. Golding does not seem to have or inculcate the killer instinct and accountability of years past, but last year was really not a great gauge.

This year will flesh out where the D talent level and D coaching levels are really at.


From what I understand he was very limited in the blitzes and things he could call. Unlikely we'll get Pruitt levels of greatness, but I see no reason the defense can't be elite again - injuries willing.

Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
37557 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:50 pm to
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But I'm the most hated Alabama poster


Are you cajunbama? Cause cajunbama is hated universally on this board. Well, we mostly just feel sorry for him. He seems like his life is hard. So maybe he’s not as hated as I thought.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
46779 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:52 pm to
3down10 ain’t even in the top ten
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30738 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:54 pm to
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3down10 ain’t even in the top ten




I got banned today and they made a thread to celebrate it.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30738 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:54 pm to
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Are you cajunbama? Cause cajunbama is hated universally on this board. Well, we mostly just feel sorry for him. He seems like his life is hard. So maybe he’s not as hated as I thought.


Nah, I was more poking fun at the dumbass "insider" over there who bans people that don't kiss his arse.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
46779 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:57 pm to
I thought you were talking about this board

Which one did you get banned from
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30738 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 8:59 pm to
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I thought you were talking about this board

Which one did you get banned from




Crimson Boz's Corner
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
46779 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:01 pm to
Figures

I incredibly have access to that board but I’m saving my one post for something gargantuan
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105015 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:31 pm to
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I think some have given Lee a bad rap. But, I also firmly believe that if there was a better option, CNS would have played him. So, he was the best available and obviously doing his best. What more can one ask for? I'm not for bashing kids who are giving their all.


Lee played his arse off in an impossible situation. He wasn't ready, mentally or physically (most aren't), and he played hard as hell through it anyway.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
46779 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:37 pm to
This thread has made me realize that the tiger rant isn’t really an outlier
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105015 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 9:38 pm to
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This thread has made me realize that the tiger rant isn’t really an outlier


Not even close
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
6874 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 10:03 pm to
I’m sorry but not all of some of those freshmen shortcomings are due to experience. Shane Lee is not a middle linebacker. He’s has a future closer to the los. Maybe?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30738 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 10:35 pm to
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I’m sorry but not all of some of those freshmen shortcomings are due to experience. Shane Lee is not a middle linebacker. He’s has a future closer to the los. Maybe?


Well it's experience and more time in the weight room. He must be pretty smart if he was calling the defense as a true freshman, he could probably provide depth in a few positions on the front 7.

But if he's starting next year, it means we've had terrible injury luck again. Not going to be pretty.

Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4765 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 10:58 pm to
bama started all of three TrFR vs LSU. Can't speak to the amount that actually played in the game. Not familiar enough with the tide roster. The three starters were dale at NT and the two ILBs. One was from BR if I remember correctly.
Posted by 167back
Dos Gris
Member since Jun 2012
4765 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 11:02 pm to
That's not saying much for bama's defensive recruiting if seven TrFr were saban's best option. Where were all those other RFr, soph, jr and sr former 5*s?
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
14375 posts
Posted on 3/9/20 at 11:45 pm to
Getting banned usually means you said something that will be obvious to everyone else on your board in 6 months. You’re ahead of the curve.
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
4798 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 1:07 am to
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common excuse I hear from Bammers.


I dunno man... the most things I heard were complaints about lack of experience.

The prevailing theme was how the flood of early entries had caused lack of depth, and the staff changes had exacerbated the issue.

Alabama fans dissin on so many true freshman aren't really Alabama fans. Hell, they're no daisy at all. Perhaps they're just too high strung.
Posted by GBJs
Northwest Mississippi
Member since Dec 2012
4798 posts
Posted on 3/10/20 at 1:12 am to
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. Where were all those other RFr, soph, jr and sr former 5*s?


In the NFL???
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