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Posted on 8/28/20 at 8:47 pm to stomp
quote:What about the 30 people that have died by the actions of BLM and ANTIFA since George Floyd?
Did Breonna Taylor deserve to die? Yes or no?
A what about the 2 year old?
Yes or no?
Does it not fit your narrative?
Posted on 8/28/20 at 8:52 pm to YF12
quote:Nah. They will just use it as an excuse to raid target for tvs and bill it to the few crooked cops because they are entitled to it.
WE SUPPORT CHILD RAPING WOMEN ABUSERS!
WE SUPPORT CHILD RAPING WOMEN ABUSERS!
Posted on 8/28/20 at 8:52 pm to TigerLunatik
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As long as it's peaceful, what's the problem?
There shouldn't be one. We hear about freedom of this and freedom of that all the time. These guys are exercising their freedom and there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. We can't pick and choose when to apply civil liberties and freedoms.
No one is saying that they can't...but but that there is a disconnect in marching for an "injustice" that was created by the perpetrators own actions. These marches appear as if supporting his behavior....glorifying it and that will ultimately cost lives.
ETA... Will cost lives if Adults aren't telling these kids that v regardless of color...if you are in a situation with police and disobey a direct order and also do something that is perceived as a threat to the police...you are not in control At that point....and these and other kids will think b that they are...and it will not end well
This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 9:16 pm
Posted on 8/28/20 at 8:55 pm to stomp
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Nobody takes a road trip to a protest with a gun looking to "defend themselves" LOL
Let the facts come out dip shite.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:00 pm to Solo Cam
It doesn't fit their narrative.
EVERY wkend in Chicago, shootings in the black neighborhoods, innocent kids sometimes among the victims.
This is a serious issue they should march/protest over but long as its black on black it'll always be a non issue & ignored by the liberals.
EVERY wkend in Chicago, shootings in the black neighborhoods, innocent kids sometimes among the victims.
This is a serious issue they should march/protest over but long as its black on black it'll always be a non issue & ignored by the liberals.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:00 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:BLM didn't have the sense to tell that they were wanting everyone to discriminate against everyone but blacks. Literally everything not about Floyd or crooked cops is them trying to preach about how everyone owes blacks something just because they are black. They want only blacks to have those freedoms and liberties.
We can't pick and choose when to apply civil liberties and freedoms.
This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 9:02 pm
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:01 pm to Rabern57
And? We are talking about their right to peacefully protest.
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:04 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:They don't have the freedom to kill people or rob and burn down businesses because they don't agree with them or what happens on their property. That's the problem along with their sense of entitlement because someone else died.
And? They have the freedom to do that if they want to. Where's the problem?
Nice EDIT: No has an issue with peaceful protest. Nothing about BLM has been peaceful. 90% don't even care about Floyd or getting crooked cops. They just want to be apart of something and cause trouble.
This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 9:07 pm
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:05 pm to skrayper
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Oh, well, her murder is completely justified then. A single recorded conversation definitely trumps due process. Just go straight to the killin', huh?
Did she deserve to die? No. Did she contribute to the situation that caused her death? Was her death racially motivated? Or the by product of completing an authorized search warrant because the known drug dealer boyfriend used her residence for his illicit activities
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:06 pm to Rabern57
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They don't have the freedom to kill people or rob and burn down businesses because they don't agree with them or what happens on their property. That's the problem along with their sense of entitlement because someone else died.
We are talking about college kids peacefully protesting. I have no clue why you are bringing this up.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:09 pm to WilliamTaylor21
The devil(s) will always find a way to justify any wrong doing.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:17 pm to McMillan
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The devil(s) will always find a way to justify any wrong doing.
Can’t wait to hear your opinion on Jacob Blake, the pseudo-martyred rapist.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:20 pm to krandor
upvote if you agree.
So let’s try to listen more, to educate ourselves better, and to find ways to not just be non-racists, but to be proudly anti-racist. If you have a voice, use it. If you have the financial means, donate to causes that fight racism. If you feel called to do so, take to the streets and exercise your first amendment rights. Contact local officials if you see something going on that needs to be changed through legislation. Sign a petition. And for god’s sake, please vote.
Also, don’t say “all lives matter” as a response to Black Lives Matter, it’s trolling at best and more often than not being used racist trope that belittles the struggles of an oppressed people. And unless you have a medical condition affecting your eyesight, don’t say “I don’t see color.” You need to see color and recognize that your black friends and colleagues had different life experiences than you because of the color of their skin. We all see color, it’s whether or not we let it affect how we treat people who look different than us. And if you’re mad about looting and rioting, yes that’s not good, but consider that A. a lot of the people taking part have nothing to do with the actual protest taking place, and B. if you’re that worked up about somebody looting a Target, I hope you brought that level of same energy and outrage when you saw Floyd get killed. Oh, and one more, when the topic is racism leading to the extrajudicial killings of blacks, don’t say “what about black-on-black crime?” Seriously, stop doing that. First of all, that’s not the issue at hand right now, secondly, there are plenty of amazing people in the black community working on that, and thirdly, if you, suddenly-concerned-about-black-on-black-crime-in-Chicago white person, really care about that topic, maybe consider learning more about how centuries of systemic racism contributed to blacks being in situations where violent crime rates might be higher because of underlying issues like poverty, poor education and lack of opportunity for upward mobility that, again, were caused in no small part by racist policies.
While it shouldn’t have taken yet another black man dying at the hands, or in this case, the knee of a cop to get us here, it feels like we might be at a tipping point as a nation. And if everything that has happening in recent months, from Breonna Taylor to Ahmaud Arbery to George Floyd, to a president who sympathizes with white supremacists but uses thinly-veiled slurs when it comes to black protestors, has been enough to shift your opinions or to just cause you to reach a breaking point where you can no longer remain silent, then hang onto this feeling and continue advocate for and an ally to a black community that is long overdue for some serious change.
All of this might make some people uncomfortable or even upset with me, but this topic is too important to stay silent. This is no longer about politics, about left vs. right or red states and blue states, it’s about right vs. wrong. It’s about being on the right side of history so you don’t have to someday explain to your grandkids why you enabled a tyrant who calls for military force against his own citizens who are trying to exercise their right to peacefully protest, who calls neo-Nazis very fine people but who calls black NFL players “sons of bitches” for peacefully protesting during the national anthem, and who suggests that summary execution as an appropriate response to property damage.
And finally, say it loud and say it proud:
Black
Lives
Matter
So let’s try to listen more, to educate ourselves better, and to find ways to not just be non-racists, but to be proudly anti-racist. If you have a voice, use it. If you have the financial means, donate to causes that fight racism. If you feel called to do so, take to the streets and exercise your first amendment rights. Contact local officials if you see something going on that needs to be changed through legislation. Sign a petition. And for god’s sake, please vote.
Also, don’t say “all lives matter” as a response to Black Lives Matter, it’s trolling at best and more often than not being used racist trope that belittles the struggles of an oppressed people. And unless you have a medical condition affecting your eyesight, don’t say “I don’t see color.” You need to see color and recognize that your black friends and colleagues had different life experiences than you because of the color of their skin. We all see color, it’s whether or not we let it affect how we treat people who look different than us. And if you’re mad about looting and rioting, yes that’s not good, but consider that A. a lot of the people taking part have nothing to do with the actual protest taking place, and B. if you’re that worked up about somebody looting a Target, I hope you brought that level of same energy and outrage when you saw Floyd get killed. Oh, and one more, when the topic is racism leading to the extrajudicial killings of blacks, don’t say “what about black-on-black crime?” Seriously, stop doing that. First of all, that’s not the issue at hand right now, secondly, there are plenty of amazing people in the black community working on that, and thirdly, if you, suddenly-concerned-about-black-on-black-crime-in-Chicago white person, really care about that topic, maybe consider learning more about how centuries of systemic racism contributed to blacks being in situations where violent crime rates might be higher because of underlying issues like poverty, poor education and lack of opportunity for upward mobility that, again, were caused in no small part by racist policies.
While it shouldn’t have taken yet another black man dying at the hands, or in this case, the knee of a cop to get us here, it feels like we might be at a tipping point as a nation. And if everything that has happening in recent months, from Breonna Taylor to Ahmaud Arbery to George Floyd, to a president who sympathizes with white supremacists but uses thinly-veiled slurs when it comes to black protestors, has been enough to shift your opinions or to just cause you to reach a breaking point where you can no longer remain silent, then hang onto this feeling and continue advocate for and an ally to a black community that is long overdue for some serious change.
All of this might make some people uncomfortable or even upset with me, but this topic is too important to stay silent. This is no longer about politics, about left vs. right or red states and blue states, it’s about right vs. wrong. It’s about being on the right side of history so you don’t have to someday explain to your grandkids why you enabled a tyrant who calls for military force against his own citizens who are trying to exercise their right to peacefully protest, who calls neo-Nazis very fine people but who calls black NFL players “sons of bitches” for peacefully protesting during the national anthem, and who suggests that summary execution as an appropriate response to property damage.
And finally, say it loud and say it proud:
Black
Lives
Matter
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:26 pm to pioneerbasketball
Nice cut and paste. Rittenhouse shot a pedo who was attacking him and had thrown a Molotov cocktail at him and then two other leftist goons who tried to attack him on the ground. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
LINK
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:32 pm to pioneerbasketball
You continually have the police called due to committing crimes examples being Floyd/Blake, your luck will eventually run out.
That goes for Asians, blacks, whites, any damn color.
That goes for Asians, blacks, whites, any damn color.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:34 pm to YF12
quote:
WE SUPPORT CHILD RAPING WOMEN ABUSERS!
Your state damn near put exactly that in the US Senate.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 9:34 pm to Mithridates6
quote:
Was he defending himself or not?
FYI, showing up with the intention of needing to use an [illegally possessed] firearm for self defense can still have severe legal consequences.
Just because it was self defense in the instant doesn’t mean it’s not a significant crime.
Not touching this incident specifically because I don’t know all the details, but I want some of y’all to understand this in case there are any unhinged people reading this.
Vigilantism is illegal. You can legally and constitutionally defend yourself under normal, routine circumstances. You can defend your home and, in some states, your property.
Typically you cannot show up armed to a violent situation, become physically involved, and then use lethal force - even if said lethal force was truly in self defense. There is plenty of precedent here.
Under some statutes, it’s possible the illegal possession and transportation can blow the self defense argument as well.
Defend yourself, your family, and your property, but don’t show up to a protest (even a violent one) with a gun like a dumbass.
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