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re: AJ Mccaron should not win the Heisman.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:16 am to elposter
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:16 am to elposter
AJ Mccarron doesn't belong on the podium. He is a very nice QB and perfect for Bama. You put him on Georgia and he wins about as much as Aaron Murray. His teams are generally good and so is the line he plays behind as well as the players around him. That's not to say he isn't a fine player but nothing about him is exceptional....gets the job done and doesn't make mistakes very often....can't hate that. Heisman however is not a category for career QB's who may not have big numbers but they win behind powerful teams.
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:16 am to Downtown dawg
This is why team sports shouldn't have individual awards. It takes the whole team for one individual to be successful. So in reality no one deserves the Heisman. If JFF didn't have Mike Evans, would JFF's numbers be what they are? And if it is truly a statistical award why doesn't Mariota still have a chance just because his team lost a game. His stats are still pretty much the same.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:16 am to DWag215
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You know perfectly well the only reason Bama even won is because of the shockingly horrid defense we field this year
Pick 6 and that other interception JFF threw didn't hurt
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:16 am to Downtown dawg
I don't think he will win it but should this be held against him. Alabama is usually up big in the 2nd half and Saban takes the air out of the ball. When McCarron has been needed to pass to establish a lead or to keep Bama in the game(A&M, LSU) he has answered the bell. Think what you will about the spread or HUNH offense but they have skewed offensive numbers to where they are almost pointless to use in an argument about who is better.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:17 am to DWag215
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fricking State amassed over 500 yards against our defense. Don't prop up McHandoff by pointing to the TAMU game. You know perfectly well the only reason Bama even won is because of the shockingly horrid defense we field this year.
I'm saying that when Bama needed points they mixed up the run and pass almost identically.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:18 am to DWag215
Wow. You did t even get what he was saying. We threw the ball about the same as we ran it against A&M due to it be a close game. Calm down man.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:21 am to bamafan425
Plus... there are a lot of Alabama run plays during the season ... maybe 30 plays or more, that were end of game run out the clock, kneel-down runs many of which AJ wasn't even on the field for. In the recent LSU game for instance, AJ stayed on the field and knelt the ball three times... those get credited as "runs" for zero or negative yards...
Humm, we've got to do something about our education system...
Humm, we've got to do something about our education system...
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:24 am to DWag215
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You know perfectly well the only reason Bama even won is because of the shockingly horrid defense we field this year.
Is that like saying "The only reason A&M was in the game was because of the shockingly good offense they have this year?"
No matter why they won....they won. Nobody else has been able to stop Bama this year. If you don't like your defense....fix it.
The only reason Georgia has lost this year is because of a shockingly bad defense and injuries. However, the defense is bad and the injuries happened.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:28 am to DawgsLife
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:34 am to TG3
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www.firegrantham.com
I'm a trendsetter
I have mixed feelings about Grantham. I would admit that I am probably very slow to pull the trigger on a firing, though.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:53 am to Downtown dawg
One point in support of the OP - if the Heisman is not the most outstanding player, but the most VALUABLE player, then the award has just as much to do with how good your backup can play. That's sort of silly.
Alabama would be SCREWED without AJ...but how much of that is because the idea of starting Blake Sims is frightful (which has nothing to do with AJ)?
Alabama would be SCREWED without AJ...but how much of that is because the idea of starting Blake Sims is frightful (which has nothing to do with AJ)?
Posted on 11/14/13 at 11:59 am to Crimson Legend
well how could clemson fair without Boyd? Or ole miss without wallace? if you use that theory then i could debate over 50 schools using that
Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:00 pm to TG3
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AJ Mccarron doesn't belong on the podium.
Why this campaign by mostly UGA fans about AJ not being heisman worthy? We all know that pro-style QBs can't win this trophy anymore. I don't know anybody who's clamoring for him to win.
To be the most outstanding player, you have to:
a) touch the ball every offensive down.
b) get more rushing yards than you leading rushing running back.
c) be able to make some outstanding plays with your feet by scrambling.
As it stands, guys like JFF, FamousJamis, RG3, etc. will win the Heisman for the foreseeable future. Pro-style QBs and RBs are out of the question.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:01 pm to TemperdTiger
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Peyton, Brees
these are not game manager QBs... Alex Smith would be a good example of a game manager
Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:01 pm to Crimson Legend
No worries. AJ won't win the Heisman. He is a great college QB. He may make a great NFL QB. He will probably be invited to the Heisman ceremony, but he has zero chance of winning it.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:02 pm to MrAUTigers
and auburn fans...marshall wont win it either
Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:07 pm to Downtown dawg
Is it just me, or does spelling dog with a "aw" really make people look stupid? It's kind of like pluralizing things with a "z".
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Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:33 pm to Downtown dawg
Yet he beat all three of those guys. Not saying he should win, hell I hope he doesn't. We want team awards.
Posted on 11/14/13 at 12:34 pm to MrAUTigers
That's at least slightly better than your chances in IB. 
Posted on 11/14/13 at 1:03 pm to DWag215
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Bama even won is because of the shockingly horrid defense we field this year.
We could've stomped your arse even more than we did. GAY&M fans and your "moral" victory.
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