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re: Aggie recruiting class, the honest truth...

Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:03 pm to
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I don’t think it’s an issue A&M did.


Not an issue at all.

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Every school had the opportunity and A&M simply took advantage of it.


This is correct. But the Chicken Little A&M fans are scared that if they win a National Title with this class, people will put an asterisk by it because the used NIL to get the players. That's why they are so ball burstingly insistent on trying to create this narrative that it wasn't NIL that got this done.

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What A&M would’ve done without NIL is irrelevant because the NIL era is here.


Exactly. Aggies, be happy. How you got here is irrelevant.

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it’s fair to acknowledge NIL boosted this class.


LOL, good luck with that.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:06 pm to
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What people are seeing is only the beginning of a whole new level of power program, fueled by a ridiculously large and unified alumni base with massive pockets, and an insatiable desire to win. A new era.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
42253 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:09 pm to
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What people are seeing is only the beginning of a whole new level of power program, fueled by complete desperation and nouveau rich sidewalk fans
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:10 pm to
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we can only hope that Kelly's midwest prowess translates to the gulf coast.

It’s a great point.
One that other programs can’t make (correct me if I’m wrong).
Bielema may’ve had that prowess; but Kelly may now be the sole priest in that regard.
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 1:10 pm
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2510 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:20 pm to
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2010 16
2011 34
2012 16


Off topic here but how in the heck did A&M drop to #34 in 2011 after being Big 12 South co-champs and a Cotton Bowl appearance? I guess Sherman got lazy and took naps instead.
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 1:21 pm
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:22 pm to
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Idk. I don’t think it’s an issue A&M did. Every school had the opportunity and A&M simply took advantage of it. What A&M would’ve done without NIL is irrelevant because the NIL era is here. At the same time it’s fair to acknowledge NIL boosted this class.


I have no doubt that it boosted this class, but we were already recruiting top 10. This just gave us an extra edge.

I suspect that every school attempted to take advantage of the NIL, but could not do so on the scale that A&M has, which is a HUGE advantage we have over just about every other school and that will not change anytime soon.

Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7430 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:23 pm to
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his is gonna sting, and I'm not trying to be an a-hole here. But from an outsider's perspective, Texas A&M does not offer in one single way, a better package to a recruit than the University of Texas does.

Outsiders can have that perspective. And if they do they are simply uniformed. An outsider’s inability/refusal to understand the landscape doesn’t influence anything. If it did, A&M wouldn’t have outrecruited Texas more often than not in recent years.
Posted by Windy City
Member since Jun 2019
2229 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:28 pm to
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Outsiders can have that perspective. And if they do they are simply uniformed. An outsider’s inability/refusal to understand the landscape doesn’t influence anything. If it did, A&M wouldn’t have out recruited Texas more often than not in recent years.


Agreed . . . you realize how much people just ignorantly accept what they read in the Sporting News without any sort of critical thinking or investigation. All that crap is served up by lazy beat writers that crank out puff pieces without ever talking to anyone.

They have zero idea about how the high school ranks work here or how Texas has been a dysfunctional running joke for a decade now with multiple coaching staffs being hired and fired and producing losing seasons.

But these know-nothings will learn soon.

Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:29 pm to
Here's another little wrinkle that will be an advantage for quite a while.

Which Colleges produce the most Fortune 100 CEOs?

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While no individual school can lay claim to launching the careers of these CEOs, Boston College and Texas A&M University tie with the University of Pennsylvania in producing four CEOs in charge of top 100 companies on the Fortune 500 list, the most of any other colleges. Graduates of Boston College head up CVS Health, American International Group Inc., Abbott and The TJX Companies Inc.; Texas A&M alumni lead Exxon Mobil Corp., Cigna, Phillips 66 and Humana; and University of Pennsylvania grads helm Comcast, Oracle, Travelers and Tesla Inc.

Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7430 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:33 pm to
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But the Chicken Little A&M fans are scared that if they win a National Title with this class, people will put an asterisk by it because the used NIL to get the players. That's why they are so ball burstingly insistent on trying to create this narrative that it wasn't NIL that got this done.

All I’m seeing is A&M fans responding to this ridiculously weak narrative being pushed by jealous rivals.

If rival fans want to outrecruit A&M in this new environment, they should spend less time whining on the internet, and more time trying to grow and improve their universities, so that they produce more high earning alumni who want to give back. If they can’t do that, too bad. Be better or STFU.

Deal with it.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
9642 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:53 pm to
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Its like a psycho ex-gf stalking your facebook


Are you trying to make me believe that it’s possible for aggy to have a “gf”?
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 1:54 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
45270 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 1:54 pm to
May I ask you an honest question?
From where does your Texas A&M hatred originate?
Genuinely curious.
Posted by drivebyag
Member since Feb 2014
1908 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:21 pm to
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From where does your Texas A&M hatred originate?


He was stationed at Lackland and assumed he needed to become a sip fan. Got involved with shaggy and became a hyper sensitive t-shirt. He covers his allegiance by pretending he is a Gator.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:28 pm to
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He was stationed at Lackland and assumed he needed to become a sip fan. Got involved with shaggy and became a hyper sensitive t-shirt. He covers his allegiance by pretending he is a Gator.

So, he is Randolph Duke IRL?
Posted by Shingo
Dallas, TX, USA
Member since Sep 2010
4356 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:38 pm to
You can scream all you want about those mean ole Aggies (in vain) but you will not found anywhere close to the percentage of “t-shirt” fans from A&M as almost any other large school. I would bet almost every Aggie poster here is an Aggie. Almost
Posted by Sub Par SUPERSTAR
Florida
Member since Sep 2021
822 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 3:09 pm to
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those mean ole Aggies


That isn't exactly the vibe you guys give off.

I think perhaps a more accurate description would be "persistent ol' Aggies".
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
11336 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 3:39 pm to
Remember when A&M joined the SEC and the sips put up some outlandish billboard in Florida masquerading as trash talking A&M boosters?

Probably not a coincidence…
Posted by VBFlorida
Florida
Member since Nov 2020
1338 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 4:31 pm to
50% of these kids are overrated and won't pan out. It takes many years of good recruiting classes to build a program. The best examples are Bama, Georgia, OSU, and Clemson.
A&M has only 3-4 competitive games next year Arkansas in Dallas, MSU away and maybe Miami. The season rides on Bama game Away! I's a very easy schedule that Jimbo will screw up and lose at least 2 games.
Posted by UThomas
Member since Aug 2021
92 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 5:02 pm to
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you will not found anywhere close to the percentage of “t-shirt” fans from A&M as almost any other large school


Yea that's why their alumni association isn't an alumni association, its a "former students." Then look at their historical graduation rates...
Posted by LSUSAINT79
Member since Oct 2018
263 posts
Posted on 1/5/22 at 5:04 pm to
"They have a bunch of top notch, raw talent. They used the NIL well. Now the challenge is to forge that talent into a winning team. Not nearly as easy as many believe it will be."

You forgot, "and to keep the talent on the roster for the next couple years and avoid attrition via the transfer portal" It's going to happen in this new football era.
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