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"After Destroying Two Leagues & Triggering Conference Realignment, Texas Meets Its Match"
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:40 am
That is an actual headline in the linked article below.
Most of you Ranters are far too young to remember the old SWC days and what went on in that conflagration of a conference. Over the past several months, many of you have already heard the cries from Longhorns fans about how they're going to take over the SEC....move the HQs from Birmingham to Dallas.....move the SECCG from Atlanta to Dallas. Yada, yada, yada. Well, this is something Moo Moo fans cried and wanted when the SWC took over the Big 8 -- and they got what they wanted. But, not anymore.
It might've worked when the old Big 8 Conference was ambushed and taken over to form the Big 12 under the direction of the University of Texas --- but, those shenanigans aren't going to work in the SEC.
I've been waiting for a writer -- any writer -- to spell out the truth in a rather short and concise manner about how Texas threw its weight around to corrupt the old SWC and the Big 12 Conference. Now, they want to do the same to the grandest athletic conference of them all, the SEC.
Sorry, Moo Moo's. It's not going to happen this time.
A few excerpted paragraphs (emphasis all mine).............
For as long as anyone can remember, Texas has always had its way when it came to dictating the way business was done in college football. Along the way, it destroyed the SWC and the Big 12 because of its selfish, overbearing ways. Furthermore, through its conduct, no other school in college football is more responsible for the continuous conference realignment of the past 15+ years. But if Texas thinks it will run roughshod over the SEC, it is in for a rude awakening.
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The University of Texas likes to think of itself as above the other members of any conference it has been in. It has a haughty attitude regarding academics and culture. In fact, it seriously considered joining the Pac-12 Conference in 2010 because of its supposed academic and cultural superiority. But despite its aloofness, Texas has a shady past.
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The Texas football program made its fame in the now-defunct Southwest Conference. In the 1970s and 80s, the Southwest Conference was utterly lawless, in a less sophisticated sort of way compared to now.
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Despite arriving as immigrants from a folded, outlaw, renegade conference, the new Texas schools, led by the University of Texas, made themselves right at home in the Big 12.
First, they demanded that Prop 48 partially qualifying students no longer be accepted. Such players were a major staple in the Nebraska dynasty led by Tom Osborne. Next, they demanded that the league office be moved from Kansas City to Dallas. The maneuvers continued until the old SWC teams quickly achieved a hostile takeover of the Big 12.
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As the years progressed, Texas formed the Longhorn Network in partnership with ESPN. In turn, the Longhorns were hoarding much of the Big 12 money. Nebraska, Texas A&M, and Missouri deeply resented the situation and left the Big 12. Colorado did, too, although the move was based on its cultural snot. Ironically, Colorado has since returned to the Big 12 after the Pac-12 imploded in 2023.
Finally, in the summer of 2021, Texas convinced Oklahoma to join them in the announcement of a move to the SEC. After damaging the Big 12 beyond repair, Texas felt the league they ruined no longer had enough prestige or revenue. In a bit of karmic justice, the Longhorn Network was a flop that never caught on.
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The University of Texas is used to always having its way in everything. But in the SEC, their arrogance will not be tolerated. Texas is about to discover what it is like to be treated as an equal. It will be fascinating to see how Texas adapts to its new home. The past bullying of Texas won’t work in college football’s best league. Yet old habits are hard to break.
Enjoy your new home and circumstances, Bevo. You made the bed you are about to crap in.
LINK
Most of you Ranters are far too young to remember the old SWC days and what went on in that conflagration of a conference. Over the past several months, many of you have already heard the cries from Longhorns fans about how they're going to take over the SEC....move the HQs from Birmingham to Dallas.....move the SECCG from Atlanta to Dallas. Yada, yada, yada. Well, this is something Moo Moo fans cried and wanted when the SWC took over the Big 8 -- and they got what they wanted. But, not anymore.
It might've worked when the old Big 8 Conference was ambushed and taken over to form the Big 12 under the direction of the University of Texas --- but, those shenanigans aren't going to work in the SEC.
I've been waiting for a writer -- any writer -- to spell out the truth in a rather short and concise manner about how Texas threw its weight around to corrupt the old SWC and the Big 12 Conference. Now, they want to do the same to the grandest athletic conference of them all, the SEC.
Sorry, Moo Moo's. It's not going to happen this time.
A few excerpted paragraphs (emphasis all mine).............
For as long as anyone can remember, Texas has always had its way when it came to dictating the way business was done in college football. Along the way, it destroyed the SWC and the Big 12 because of its selfish, overbearing ways. Furthermore, through its conduct, no other school in college football is more responsible for the continuous conference realignment of the past 15+ years. But if Texas thinks it will run roughshod over the SEC, it is in for a rude awakening.
***************************************
The University of Texas likes to think of itself as above the other members of any conference it has been in. It has a haughty attitude regarding academics and culture. In fact, it seriously considered joining the Pac-12 Conference in 2010 because of its supposed academic and cultural superiority. But despite its aloofness, Texas has a shady past.
***************************************
The Texas football program made its fame in the now-defunct Southwest Conference. In the 1970s and 80s, the Southwest Conference was utterly lawless, in a less sophisticated sort of way compared to now.
***************************************
Despite arriving as immigrants from a folded, outlaw, renegade conference, the new Texas schools, led by the University of Texas, made themselves right at home in the Big 12.
First, they demanded that Prop 48 partially qualifying students no longer be accepted. Such players were a major staple in the Nebraska dynasty led by Tom Osborne. Next, they demanded that the league office be moved from Kansas City to Dallas. The maneuvers continued until the old SWC teams quickly achieved a hostile takeover of the Big 12.
***************************************
As the years progressed, Texas formed the Longhorn Network in partnership with ESPN. In turn, the Longhorns were hoarding much of the Big 12 money. Nebraska, Texas A&M, and Missouri deeply resented the situation and left the Big 12. Colorado did, too, although the move was based on its cultural snot. Ironically, Colorado has since returned to the Big 12 after the Pac-12 imploded in 2023.
Finally, in the summer of 2021, Texas convinced Oklahoma to join them in the announcement of a move to the SEC. After damaging the Big 12 beyond repair, Texas felt the league they ruined no longer had enough prestige or revenue. In a bit of karmic justice, the Longhorn Network was a flop that never caught on.
***************************************
The University of Texas is used to always having its way in everything. But in the SEC, their arrogance will not be tolerated. Texas is about to discover what it is like to be treated as an equal. It will be fascinating to see how Texas adapts to its new home. The past bullying of Texas won’t work in college football’s best league. Yet old habits are hard to break.
Enjoy your new home and circumstances, Bevo. You made the bed you are about to crap in.
LINK
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Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:41 am to JetDawg
I hope they ruin the conference
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:42 am to JetDawg
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:49 am to JetDawg
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:52 am to JetDawg
quote:
I've been waiting for a writer -- any writer -- to spell out the truth in a rather short and concise manner about how Texas threw its weight around to corrupt the old SWC and the Big 12 Conference.
Article has zero substance, so I guess you're still waiting.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:55 am to JetDawg
quote:
Furthermore, through its conduct, no other school in college football is more responsible for the continuous conference realignment of the past 15+ years. But if Texas thinks it will run roughshod over the SEC, it is in for a rude awakening.
Can I ask what Texas has done in realignment outside of staying in a watered down Big 12 for 15 years and now moving to the SEC?
It's a bit confusing as I don't think they have done much
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:56 am to JetDawg
Great content right here. I can't wait until it is posted again.. and again..
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:58 am to Buckeye06
quote:
Can I ask what Texas has done in realignment outside of staying in a watered down Big 12 for 15 years and now moving to the SEC?
It's a bit confusing as I don't think they have done much
JetDawg is a mentally ill geriatric, don't expect a substantive response.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 9:59 am to JetDawg
This definitely needed another thread
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:02 am to JetDawg
That article was clearly written by an aggy or someone influenced by their incessant fairy tales. One of the biggest fallacies is that one school can change the rules for an entire conference. The prop 48 stuff was out to a vote, I'm sure the Pulitzer prize journalist behind this drivel looked up to see how each school voted..right? Right? Lulz
He also failed to mention the dealings with ESPN for a network once included aggy, and before that Texas proposed it should be a Big12 network but that was shot down by aggy?
In other words I really hope the writer of that thing was aggy, otherwise they are just dumb for believing tall tales and omitted details...just like the fable of we wanted horns down made a penalty when that wasn't how that went at all, lulz. We love it when teams show we're in their heads 24/7, bonus points when they do it even when not playing us.
He also failed to mention the dealings with ESPN for a network once included aggy, and before that Texas proposed it should be a Big12 network but that was shot down by aggy?
In other words I really hope the writer of that thing was aggy, otherwise they are just dumb for believing tall tales and omitted details...just like the fable of we wanted horns down made a penalty when that wasn't how that went at all, lulz. We love it when teams show we're in their heads 24/7, bonus points when they do it even when not playing us.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:02 am to Buckeye06
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It's a bit confusing as I don't think they have done much
Former Texas A.D. Deloss Dodds offended TAMU's president one time and said mean things about Missouri. They hold a grudge like a woman.
Outside of that, they'll blame Longhorn Network, as if any school would turn down such an offer from ESPN.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:17 am to JetDawg
Just finished reading. Seems to be Nobel Prize worthy.
Will read again to my grandson when he comes home from Yale in two weeks.
Will read again to my grandson when he comes home from Yale in two weeks.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:49 am to 49 to nada
quote:
aggy
rent free
Rock Westfall wrote it
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:52 am to JetDawg
The fact of the matter is, at one time Texas had the clout and money to make things happen, in both the SWC and Big12.
In the SEC, Texas is just another juggernaut that will have no more power than Bama or UGA.
In the SEC, Texas is just another juggernaut that will have no more power than Bama or UGA.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 10:54 am to JetDawg
I have no clue why yall are worried about a bunch of soft big12 queers
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:01 am to Jrv2damac
quote:Go frick yourself, you sound like a jealous little Bitch
I hope they ruin the conference
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:05 am to JetDawg
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First, they demanded that Prop 48 partially qualifying students no longer be accepted.
First shot out of the rifle and it gives clear insight into this being a hit piece.
Horror of horrors. A major university wants major universities to act like major universities.
I have my issues with Texas, too, but I’m not giving bandwidth to sports’ version of all the manipulative crap you see in political “journalism”.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:10 am to Ag Zwin
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Horror of horrors. A major university wants major universities to act like major universities.
And of course he fails to mention Nebraska was outvoted 1-11 on partial qualifiers.
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:13 am to Sleepy_Tiger
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Go frick yourself, you sound like a jealous little Bitch
Lol enjoy Texas gayness
missouri and A&M was a wasted learning opportunity for you
Posted on 6/11/24 at 11:36 am to Herman Frisco
In July, Texas accepted an invitation to join the SEC in 2025, but the move could happen sooner.
If Schiller got his wish, it would have happened much, much sooner.
Texas was the apple of Schiller’s eye during his time as SEC commissioner from 1986-89.
And the interest was mutual from the Longhorns, Schiller said, although they stayed in the Southwest Conference until later leaving for the Big 12.
The SEC will grow to 16 teams after Texas and Oklahoma join. The conference had 10 teams while Schiller was commissioner. He desired more, and the SEC began exploring expansion.
“We focused on Arkansas and South Carolina, and really wanted Texas,” Schiller told me earlier this month. “So, something interesting happened: The (Texas) state legislature came back to me and said, ‘If you take Texas, you have to take Texas A&M.’ The funny part about it is that A&M was sort of lukewarm at the time about coming in.”
And the SEC wasn’t enthralled with the Aggies back then, Schiller said.
Dodds, in 1990, told the Associated Press that however the dust settled on conference realignment, the Longhorns and Aggies “will be together” in a conference.
Link: 2010 Article on Realignment
In a recent interview, Schiller reflected back on how Arkansas and South Carolina became the 11th and 12th schools in the league. But the most shocking revelation concerned how close the University of Texas came to joining the SEC.
Schiller, who left the SEC to become the executive director of the United States Olympic Committee and would later serve as president of Turner Sports and CEO of YankeeNets (going from working for Ted Turner to George Steinbrenner), said Texas had virtually agreed to become an SEC member. Arkansas and Texas would join the SEC from the Western side and South Carolina and either Florida State, Miami or Virginia Tech would enter from the East.
"The one that made the most sense was Texas," Schiller said. "I spent some time with DeLoss Dodds (the Texas athletic director) and he really wanted to join the conference."
Done deal. Everything agreed to but the name on the dotted line. Then, it all came apart.
"The state legislature (in Texas) somehow got wind of it through Texas A&M and said we had to bring in both schools or we couldn't take Texas," Schiller said.
The SEC didn't want A&M. Ultimately, the two Texas schools would leave the Southwest Conference and join the Big 12.
Link: 2010 Finebaum: How Texas nearly joined the SEC
If this had happened..
SEC West
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Ole Miss
Miss State
Texas
Arkansas
SEC East
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
FSU / Miami
South Carolina
I wonder what college football would like today if that had happened back in 1991.
If Schiller got his wish, it would have happened much, much sooner.
Texas was the apple of Schiller’s eye during his time as SEC commissioner from 1986-89.
And the interest was mutual from the Longhorns, Schiller said, although they stayed in the Southwest Conference until later leaving for the Big 12.
The SEC will grow to 16 teams after Texas and Oklahoma join. The conference had 10 teams while Schiller was commissioner. He desired more, and the SEC began exploring expansion.
“We focused on Arkansas and South Carolina, and really wanted Texas,” Schiller told me earlier this month. “So, something interesting happened: The (Texas) state legislature came back to me and said, ‘If you take Texas, you have to take Texas A&M.’ The funny part about it is that A&M was sort of lukewarm at the time about coming in.”
And the SEC wasn’t enthralled with the Aggies back then, Schiller said.
Dodds, in 1990, told the Associated Press that however the dust settled on conference realignment, the Longhorns and Aggies “will be together” in a conference.
Link: 2010 Article on Realignment
In a recent interview, Schiller reflected back on how Arkansas and South Carolina became the 11th and 12th schools in the league. But the most shocking revelation concerned how close the University of Texas came to joining the SEC.
Schiller, who left the SEC to become the executive director of the United States Olympic Committee and would later serve as president of Turner Sports and CEO of YankeeNets (going from working for Ted Turner to George Steinbrenner), said Texas had virtually agreed to become an SEC member. Arkansas and Texas would join the SEC from the Western side and South Carolina and either Florida State, Miami or Virginia Tech would enter from the East.
"The one that made the most sense was Texas," Schiller said. "I spent some time with DeLoss Dodds (the Texas athletic director) and he really wanted to join the conference."
Done deal. Everything agreed to but the name on the dotted line. Then, it all came apart.
"The state legislature (in Texas) somehow got wind of it through Texas A&M and said we had to bring in both schools or we couldn't take Texas," Schiller said.
The SEC didn't want A&M. Ultimately, the two Texas schools would leave the Southwest Conference and join the Big 12.
Link: 2010 Finebaum: How Texas nearly joined the SEC
If this had happened..
SEC West
Alabama
Auburn
LSU
Ole Miss
Miss State
Texas
Arkansas
SEC East
Tennessee
Georgia
Florida
Vanderbilt
Kentucky
FSU / Miami
South Carolina
I wonder what college football would like today if that had happened back in 1991.
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