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re: According to ESPN, Alabama
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:21 am to CrimsonTusk
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:21 am to CrimsonTusk
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however because the major poll of the day did not declare Alabama champions Alabama does not claim that Title.
Major poll didn't name bama in 1941 either so why claim that one?
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:23 am to TenTex
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We don't care about Bama.



Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:25 am to CrimsonTusk
quote:Please link this
But the NCAA recognizes Alabama with 17
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:31 am to RollDawgRoll
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Success by association....
BAMA has a bunch of National Championships
Saban coaches BAMA
LSU once had a coach named Saban
If that were true, professor, it'd be the other way around. shite, we'd be cool with 17.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:34 am to Schwaaz
you dumb Bama fans are crazy. you weren't awarded those national titles you retro claimed them. so stop sayin you were awarded them. you sound stupid. i promise college football is laughing at you. stop claiming titles.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:35 am to bamawriter
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C'mon Advocat, you know that college football was invented in 2003.
FIFY
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:40 am to CAJUN LSU MAN
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you weren't awarded those national titles you retro claimed them. so stop sayin you were awarded them.
Try to keep up:
The titles in 25, 26, 30, 34, and 41 were all AWARDED by various selectors. Many of them were retroactive selections.
During the 80s, Alabama started ACKNOWLEDGING those titles that had been AWARDED decades before.
Alabama did not simply decide that they had won national championships in those years. In each case, a third party said that Bama was the best team in the nation. Whether you agree with those third parties or not, you need to accept that the titles weren't invented out of whole cloth.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:42 am to blueboy
UT's athletic director says they have 6. 

Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:42 am to CrimsonTusk
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Take a look
Uh, BOOM??
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:43 am to CrimsonTusk
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Below is a year-by-year historyof Division I-A football national champions as determined by the BCSchampionship game and these polling organizations.
Guess you missed that part. The I-A NC is not given by the NCAA.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:48 am to SprintFun
I love how angry they get when this topic is brought up. It's worth it every time.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:48 am to TideSaint
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1. 1992
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News,Football Research, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NY Times,Sporting News, UPI/NFF, USA/CNN
Florida St.: Sagarin
2. 1979
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT, FB News, FW,Helms, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF, NY Times, Poling,Sagarin, Sporting News, UPI
Southern California: Football Research
3. 1978
Alabama: AP, FACT *, Football Research, FW, Helms *, National Championship Foundation *, NFF
Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT *, Helms*, Litkenhous, Matthews, Poling, Sagarin
Southern California: Berryman, FACT *, FB News, Helms*, National Championship Foundation *, SportingNews, UPI
4. 1977
Alabama: Football Research *
Arkansas: FACT *
Notre Dame: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT *, FBNews, Football Research *, FW, Helms, Matthews, NationalChampionship Foundation, NFF, Poling, Sagarin, Sporting News, UPI
Texas: Berryman, FACT *
5. 1975
Alabama: Matthews *
Arizona St.: National Championship Foundation *,Sporting News
Ohio St.: Berryman, FACT *, Helms *,Matthews *, Poling
Oklahoma: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT *, FBNews, Football Research, FW, Helms *, National ChampionshipFoundation *, NFF, Sagarin, UPI
6. 1973
Alabama: Berryman, UPI
Michigan: National Championship Foundation *, Poling*
Notre Dame: AP, FB News, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation*, NFF
Ohio St.: FACT, National Championship Foundation *,Poling *
Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Sagarin
7. 1966
Alabama: Berryman
Michigan St.: Football Research, Helms *, NFF *, Poling *
Notre Dame: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB N e w s , FW, Helms*, Litkenhous, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF*, Poling *, Sagarin, UPI
8. 1965
Alabama: AP, Billingsley, Football Research, FW *, NationalChampionship Foundation
Michigan St.: Berryman, DeVold, Dunkel, FB News, FW *,Helms, Litkenhous, NFF, Poling, Sagarin, UPI
9. 1964
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Litkenhous, UPI
Arkansas: Billingsley, Football Research, FW, Helms, NationalChampionship Foundation, Poling
Michigan: Dunkel
Notre Dame: DeVold, FB News, NFF, Sagarin
10. 1962
Alabama: Billingsley
LSU: Berryman *
Southern California: AP, Berryman *, DeVold, Dunkel, FBNews, Football Research, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation, NFF,Poling, Sagarin, UPI, Williamson
Mississippi: Litkenhous
11. 1961
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB News, FootballResearch, Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, NFF, Sagarin,UPI, Williamson
Ohio St.: FW, Poling
12. 1945
Alabama: National Championship Foundation *
Army: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, FootballResearch, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation *, Poling, Sagarin, Williamson
13. 1941
Alabama: Houlgate
Minnesota: AP, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research,Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, Poling
Texas: Berryman, Williamson
14. 1934
Alabama: Dunkel, Houlgate, Poling, Williamson
Minnesota: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Football Research, Helms,Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation
15. 1930
Alabama: Football Research, Parke Davis *
Notre Dame: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Dunkel, Helms, Houlgate,National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis *, Poling
16. 1926
Alabama: Billingsley, Football Research, Helms *, NationalChampionship Foundation *, Poling
Lafayette: Parke Davis
Navy: Boand, Houlgate
Stanford: Dickinson, Helms *, National ChampionshipFoundation *
17. 1925
Alabama: Billingsley, Boand, Football Research, Helms, Houlgate, NationalChampionship Foundation, Poling
Dartmouth: Dickinson, Parke Davis
Let's not forget 2009 either.
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A number of polling organizations also provide a final ranking of DivisionI-A football teams at the end of each season. Below is a year-by-year historyof Division I-A football national champions as determined by the BCSchampionship game and these polling organizations. More information on nationalpoll rankings is available in the Division I-A section of the NCAA Divison I-A/I-AA Football Records Book.
1. 1992
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Eck, FACT, FB News,Football Research, FW, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NY Times,Sporting News, UPI/NFF, USA/CNN
Florida St.: Sagarin
2. 1979
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT, FB News, FW,Helms, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF, NY Times, Poling,Sagarin, Sporting News, UPI
Southern California: Football Research
3. 1978
Alabama: AP, FACT *, Football Research, FW, Helms *, National Championship Foundation *, NFF
Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT *, Helms*, Litkenhous, Matthews, Poling, Sagarin
Southern California: Berryman, FACT *, FB News, Helms*, National Championship Foundation *, SportingNews, UPI
4. 1977
Alabama: Football Research *
Arkansas: FACT *
Notre Dame: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT *, FBNews, Football Research *, FW, Helms, Matthews, NationalChampionship Foundation, NFF, Poling, Sagarin, Sporting News, UPI
Texas: Berryman, FACT *
5. 1975
Alabama: Matthews *
Arizona St.: National Championship Foundation *,Sporting News
Ohio St.: Berryman, FACT *, Helms *,Matthews *, Poling
Oklahoma: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FACT *, FBNews, Football Research, FW, Helms *, National ChampionshipFoundation *, NFF, Sagarin, UPI
6. 1973
Alabama: Berryman, UPI
Michigan: National Championship Foundation *, Poling*
Notre Dame: AP, FB News, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation*, NFF
Ohio St.: FACT, National Championship Foundation *,Poling *
Oklahoma: Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research, Sagarin
7. 1966
Alabama: Berryman
Michigan St.: Football Research, Helms *, NFF *, Poling *
Notre Dame: AP, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB N e w s , FW, Helms*, Litkenhous, Matthews, National Championship Foundation, NFF*, Poling *, Sagarin, UPI
8. 1965
Alabama: AP, Billingsley, Football Research, FW *, NationalChampionship Foundation
Michigan St.: Berryman, DeVold, Dunkel, FB News, FW *,Helms, Litkenhous, NFF, Poling, Sagarin, UPI
9. 1964
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Litkenhous, UPI
Arkansas: Billingsley, Football Research, FW, Helms, NationalChampionship Foundation, Poling
Michigan: Dunkel
Notre Dame: DeVold, FB News, NFF, Sagarin
10. 1962
Alabama: Billingsley
LSU: Berryman *
Southern California: AP, Berryman *, DeVold, Dunkel, FBNews, Football Research, FW, Helms, National Championship Foundation, NFF,Poling, Sagarin, UPI, Williamson
Mississippi: Litkenhous
11. 1961
Alabama: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, DeVold, Dunkel, FB News, FootballResearch, Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, NFF, Sagarin,UPI, Williamson
Ohio St.: FW, Poling
12. 1945
Alabama: National Championship Foundation *
Army: AP, Berryman, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, FootballResearch, Helms, Houlgate, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation *, Poling, Sagarin, Williamson
13. 1941
Alabama: Houlgate
Minnesota: AP, Billingsley, Boand, DeVold, Dunkel, Football Research,Helms, Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation, Poling
Texas: Berryman, Williamson
14. 1934
Alabama: Dunkel, Houlgate, Poling, Williamson
Minnesota: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Football Research, Helms,Litkenhous, National Championship Foundation
15. 1930
Alabama: Football Research, Parke Davis *
Notre Dame: Billingsley, Boand, Dickinson, Dunkel, Helms, Houlgate,National Championship Foundation, Parke Davis *, Poling
16. 1926
Alabama: Billingsley, Football Research, Helms *, NationalChampionship Foundation *, Poling
Lafayette: Parke Davis
Navy: Boand, Houlgate
Stanford: Dickinson, Helms *, National ChampionshipFoundation *
17. 1925
Alabama: Billingsley, Boand, Football Research, Helms, Houlgate, NationalChampionship Foundation, Poling
Dartmouth: Dickinson, Parke Davis
Let's not forget 2009 either.
This post was edited on 1/14/10 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:50 am to CrimsonTusk
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The combined record of the Alabama teams that ESPN does not recognize was 49-0-1 with 3 Rose Bowl victories and 1 tie in the Rose Bowl. The 1941 team is very controversial because it was retroactively awarded based on having two losses, but an extremely strong strength of schedule, and great non conference victories.
The rest(8) of Alabama's national championships were awarded by the AP, Coaches, or BCS polls.
Those combined = 13. There are several others Alabama could claim. Including four the NCAA claims for Alabama.
The combined record of the Alabama teams that ESPN does not recognize was 49-0-1 with 3 Rose Bowl victories and 1 tie in the Rose Bowl. The 1941 team is very controversial because it was retroactively awarded based on having two losses, but an extremely strong strength of schedule, and great non conference victories.
The rest(8) of Alabama's national championships were awarded by the AP, Coaches, or BCS polls.
Those combined = 13. There are several others Alabama could claim. Including four the NCAA claims for Alabama.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:51 am to TideSaint
ABC & ESPN called Bama out. It's a closed book except for Bama Fans. 

Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:54 am to TenTex
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ESPN called Bama out.
So a news organization that has been around for only 30 years is the be all, end all authority for who won National Championships in the first 70 years of the last century? STFU.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 8:57 am to Geauxtigers468
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Guess you missed that part. The I-A NC is not given by the NCAA.
Guess you missed the part where CrimsonTusk said the NCAA RECOGNIZES 17 titles for Alabama. He didn't say jack shite about them GIVING Alabama anything. Nice reading comprehension.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:02 am to TideSaint
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NCAA RECOGNIZES 17 titles
The NCAA doesn't RECOGNIZES I-A NC's. The NCAA only recognizes NC's that are won by a playoff.
Posted on 1/14/10 at 9:03 am to CAJUN LSU MAN
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you dumb Bama fans are crazy. you weren't awarded those national titles you retro claimed them. so stop sayin you were awarded them. you sound stupid. i promise college football is laughing at you. stop claiming titles.
Hey moron. Try looking into instead of just parroting what others tell you. They were awarded by the different media outlets of the day, Pre-AP Poll. We didn't invent the titles decades later, we just started acknowledging the ones awarded to us back then.
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