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re: ACC Network DOA
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:06 pm to genro
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:06 pm to genro
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From a cultural, football, and geographical perspective FSU and Clemson are by far the best fits. It is what the fans would want.
Agreed.
Virginia Tech is also not a bad option.
They are the Aggy of the East Coast. Pair them up with Aggy as cross division rivals.
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:06 pm to joshnorris14
quote:Silly. If it made $$$ they would allow it in a heartbeat, and all would be forgiven for the chicken that crossed the road
t won't happen because Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, and A&M won't allow it. FSU had their chance and declined
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:09 pm to genro
South Carolina, Florida, and Kentucky have had an agreement to block FSU, Clemson, and Louisville since the first realignment 2+ decades ago when FSU originally turned down the invite.
And FSU wouldn't accept, because, in the words of Bobby Bowden, its easier to win in the ACC
And FSU wouldn't accept, because, in the words of Bobby Bowden, its easier to win in the ACC
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:10 pm to genro
For some reason I think UVA and VaTech are much more likely. UNC has this Texas-esque smug about them.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:11 pm to Ancient Astronaut
Bruh, so do the Wahoos.
That's a function of "public ivys"
That's a function of "public ivys"
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:12 pm to genro
Yeah you're right but I still think UNC's smugness is hard to beat 
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:14 pm to joshnorris14
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FSU had their chance and declined
That was 25 years ago. Value propositions change. Think how vastly different the TV situation was in the early 90s.
A year or two ago, the ACC TV revenue was only $100k/school behind the SEC and now the SEC number is more like $11 million/school more than the ACC.
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It won't happen because Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky, and A&M won't allow it.
Why the hell do Kentucky and Aggy care?
Kentucky should be happy to have a couple more football schools to whip up on during basketball season.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:16 pm to BrerTiger
It's about exclusivity in the SEC
We support their right to not have an in state rival in the conference
They in exchange will always vote no to tu if they ever came knocking
We support their right to not have an in state rival in the conference
They in exchange will always vote no to tu if they ever came knocking
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:16 pm to BrerTiger
quote:because we will show solidarity here so when people start talking about louisville or baylor/texas/etc, they will show solidarity
Why the hell do Kentucky and Aggy care?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:17 pm to joshnorris14
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Duke and Virginia
If you're trying to build a league of so called southern ivies. But that discounts school culture, and I think culture makes Duke a poor choice. Eighty-five percent of their students come from out of state and it doesn't feel particularly southern.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:18 pm to MontyFranklyn
They can schedule an OOC game in basketball each year. They'll be fine
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:19 pm to Old Sarge
quote:I think it's interesting that Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, and Florida get their states exclusively
It's about exclusivity in the SEC
Meanwhile
Mississippi and Alabama have to share two programs each
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:20 pm to genro
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Mississippi and Alabama have to share two programs
Aren't they all charter members?
We are talking about expansion
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:20 pm to genro
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Mississippi and Alabama have to share two programs eac
You forgot Tennessee.
Oh wait...
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:20 pm to Boomer00
Anybody who understands why USC left the ACC in the first place, and the history between Carolina/Clemson during that process understands that USC will never vote to allow Clemson in the SEC.
Many of us may have an ambivalent relationship with the SEC, but the prospect of Clemson getting to enjoy the fruits of this conference without having to endure the suffering USC did to earn it is bollocks.
Many of us may have an ambivalent relationship with the SEC, but the prospect of Clemson getting to enjoy the fruits of this conference without having to endure the suffering USC did to earn it is bollocks.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:21 pm to Boomer00
Georgia Tech and NC State
Georgia Tech for academics
NC State for shits and gigz
Georgia Tech for academics
NC State for shits and gigz
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:21 pm to genro
quote:not our fault you guys started off with two in each
Meanwhile
Mississippi and Alabama have to share two programs each
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:23 pm to Old Sarge
quote:So the SEC is not about exclusivity? Or just for the new guys?
Aren't they all charter members?
We are talking about expansion
Or is it actually just about money?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:23 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:So did Louisiana
not our fault you guys started off with two in each
Posted on 11/3/15 at 3:24 pm to genro
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I think it's interesting that Texas, Georgia, Louisiana, and Florida get their states exclusively
Meanwhile
Mississippi and Alabama have to share two programs each
And you know damn well that those situations were essentially grandfathered into the league.
Of course, individual schools that have state exclusivity want to keep it, and the conference only wants higher cable/satellite subscriber fees from untapped areas. So that means VA, NC and OK (really only OU) would be the only places from which expansion will happen.
As for what would happen if ACC schools start to jump ship? I suspect UVA and UNC would look toward the B1G as the right fit for them. The SEC would end up with VT and NCSU (both are the better fits culturally anyway).
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