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Aaron Murray on NIL: Imagine how different it would have gone with Green and Gurley

Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:06 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Georgia fans will recall that Aaron Murray had a routine while he was playing for the Bulldogs. He took the offensive linemen to Ben & Jerry’s for ice cream every week. If they happened to keep him upright without a sack on a particular week during the season, then they might go out for steak or seafood.

Always, Murray picked up the tab.

That would’ve been considerably less of a financial burden on Murray in college had he been able to take advantage of his name, image and likeness the way JT Daniels and college football players can in 2021.

Murray actually got a taste of NIL his senior season. He tore his ACL against Kentucky in the next-to-last game of the 2013 regular season. That meant that he’d miss the season finale against Georgia Tech and the Bulldogs’ appearance in the Gator Bowl.

At $35 an autograph and a $100 or so per camp participant, Murray grossed well over $100,000 in the four months preceding the 2014 NFL draft.

“Yeah, drinks were on me after that,” Murray quipped.

Had NIL rights been around during Murray’s collegiate career, the four-year starter and all-time passing record holder surely would’ve banked many more thousands of dollars.

“I’m sitting on the sidelines and daydreaming about the amount of money I could have made,” Murray said with a laugh. “It would’ve been up there; it would’ve been sweet.”

Wide receiver A.J. Green was suspended for the first four games in 2010 for selling his 2009 Independence Bowl letterman’s jacket online for $1,000. Likewise, running back Todd Gurley was suspended for four games by the NCAA in 2014 for signing merchandise for some sports memorabilia dealers for $3,000.

“I saw both those guys get popped,” Murray said. “Imagine how different those years would have gone if we had those guys.”

Georgia went 6-7 in 2010, losing four of the first five games, and 10-3 in 2014. The Bulldogs were 3-1 while Gurley was sidelined, losing to Florida 38-20 in Jacksonville.

As for the current landscape, Murray said “it’s a little crazy right now, a little nuts,” as both companies and players are jumping at opportunities. He expects deals like the south Florida gym that promised $6,000 for every Miami football player will soon disappear.

“I think all of that is going to die away,” Murray said. “Everybody’s trying to jump on it right now because it’s hot, but I think the fad will fade and next year it will be mostly quarterbacks and running backs and the big-time skill-position guys.”

“I’m sure the coaches are preaching to these kids that it’s not going to be fair for everyone,” Murray said. “But, look, these kids aren’t stupid. They watch the NFL. Who do you see on commercials? You see quarterbacks, receivers, running backs. You don’t see offensive linemen doing commercials. You rarely see defensive linemen besides Aaron Donald and J.J. Watt. It’s Tom Brady, it’s Aaron Rodgers, it’s Patrick Mahomes, it’s guys like that making all the deals.

“These guys can see that the quarterback is getting deals and say, ‘well, if I want some deals, I’ve got to ball out. I’ve got to go make some plays,’” Murray said. “If you want recognition, then you better be a run-stuffer or get to the quarterback or whatever you do. Then you’ll get some deals. Same with offensive linemen. Go make some pancakes. You might not get the same amount of deals but if you work hard and make a name for yourself on the field, there will be deals out there for them.”

AJC (this is cut down from a long-form article; pretty good read for our Georgia friends)
Posted by Shackleville
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:08 pm to
Damn paper, this is good stuff. Thanks for these articles.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:10 pm to
This is pretty bigoted against offensive linemen IMO
Posted by gamecockman12
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:12 pm to
Settle down Aaron.

Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:14 pm to
That leg will never not freak me out
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:15 pm to
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Damn paper, this is good stuff. Thanks for these articles.

Gotta lay down some regular articles before I start shite-posting about TigerLunatik.
This post was edited on 7/18/21 at 8:45 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:24 pm to
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That leg will never not freak me out

Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:28 pm to
Dude looks like a quitter IYAM
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:30 pm to
I hope he's right, I'm afraid he isn't.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:40 pm to
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I hope he's right, I'm afraid he isn't.

About?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:42 pm to
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About?



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“I think all of that is going to die away,” Murray said. “Everybody’s trying to jump on it right now because it’s hot, but I think the fad will fade and next year it will be mostly quarterbacks and running backs and the big-time skill-position guys.”
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:48 pm to
People are naive if they think this is about marketability, it isn't. Less than 1% of the athletes will be paid for their looks or stats, most will be paid for because the jerseys they wear by the boosters who support that jersey. The Heisman candidates will be the highest paid, but the big market athletes will be next, followed by the better P5 schools.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 2:54 pm to
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I think the fad will fade and next year it will be mostly quarterbacks and running backs

Oh yeah, gotcha. I'm afraid he's right.

I've been fascinated thinking about how the market will react after a year or so of this.

Right now some of this sounds like a steal in terms of ROI.

I would imagine that will continue to climb, and some of the astronomical numbers we're hearing will eventually fall, or be extremely rare, if it's deemed too risky.

Curious to see where we get to (up or down) once a value can actually be placed on it.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:33 pm to
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The Heisman candidates will be the highest paid

I think I cut this part out because the article was so long, but did find this interesting:
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JT Daniels is one of only two college football players that ESM signed. North Carolina quarterback Sam Howell is the other.

Everett said that, for now, they wanted to limit their NIL roster to just those two players because they expect them to be Heisman Trophy hopefuls and high-profile leaders of championship-contending teams.

“These guys are in a different position,” Everett said. “The strategy here will be choosing brands they have a strong affinity for.”

Depending on how long they remain in college – both Daniels and Howell are juniors – Everett estimates their earnings could reach into the millions.
Posted by AirbusDawg
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:40 pm to
Funny, just saw AJ three days ago in Roswell driving a $300,000 Lambo
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:43 pm to
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a $300,000 Lambo

Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

quote:
The Heisman candidates will be the highest paid

I think I cut this part out because the article was so long, but did find this interesting:
quote:
JT Daniels is one of only two college football players that ESM signed. North Carolina quarterback Sam Howell is the other.

Everett said that, for now, they wanted to limit their NIL roster to just those two players because they expect them to be Heisman Trophy hopefuls and high-profile leaders of championship-contending teams.

“These guys are in a different position,” Everett said. “The strategy here will be choosing brands they have a strong affinity for.”

Depending on how long they remain in college – both Daniels and Howell are juniors – Everett estimates their earnings could reach into the millions.



How many pre-season Heisman candidates fade during the year? That will be the problem with NIL. The window of opportunity for that 1% will be very short.
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:52 pm to
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Likewise, running back Todd Gurley was suspended for four games by the NCAA in 2014 for signing merchandise for some sports memorabilia dealers for $3,000


Gurley got so screwed...not only by the NCAA but our nutless athletic director as well.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:52 pm to
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How many pre-season Heisman candidates fade during the year? That will be the problem with NIL.

Yeah, I'm really curious to see how this plays out.

Somebody is going to waaayyyy overpay for player sponsorship, and the market is presumably going to correct as a result.

I wonder if any of these contracts have (or even can have) performance guarantees? As in, if they suck, they don't get all of the money?
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 7/9/21 at 3:53 pm to
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Oh yeah, gotcha. I'm afraid he's right.

I've been fascinated thinking about how the market will react after a year or so of this.

Right now some of this sounds like a steal in terms of ROI.

I would imagine that will continue to climb, and some of the astronomical numbers we're hearing will eventually fall, or be extremely rare, if it's deemed too risky.

Curious to see where we get to (up or down) once a value can actually be placed on it.


If you think that modern transfer rules combined with 3rd party NIL agents won't equal free agency for all positions of football, then I can't help you understand. The QB's and RB's will certainly be the high liners, but they are all going to be getting paid and if they [non highliners, OL etc] don't think boosters are buying enough of their swag, they'll go somewhere that does.

This is exactly how legal bribery happens in politics. Write a book, sell a million copies on Amazon, money untraceable, the books are all paid for by a lobbyist (or two) and all go in a dumpster. Or like Hunter Biden is doing now, suddenly he's an artist and selling to anonymous buyers at outrageous prices.

All this crooked shite is going to happen right here right now in college football. I know it wasn't 100% on the up and up prior to NIL ruling, but now it is 0% on the up and up.
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