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re: A&M...why do you hate LSU so much??
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:54 pm to MWP
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:54 pm to MWP
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Probably still butt hurt over Bear and the Momma called thing? The hurricane game? Them thinking they were getting a good coach in fRan but he really sucked?
It's really more of a combination of Bear in exchange for Fran, but that is part of it.
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:54 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
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Choctaw gonna Choctaw
Why do you lurk the Zoo regularly Choctaw?
if by zoo you mean TexAgs the answer would be..because i can
and also to see what aggies are saying about certain recruits
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:55 pm to MWP
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Probably still butt hurt over Bear and the Momma called thing? The hurricane game? Them thinking they were getting a good coach in fRan but he really sucked?
Well, in Coach Bryant's case, he was an Alabama alum. I'd think that him returning to his distressed alma mater would be understandable.
The circumstances surrounding the hurricane game were just plain fricking stupid.
In Fran's case, it was like, "Ok, we'll take their coach... uh oh. Turns out he fricking sucked." It should cancel itself out. If you roll the dice and come up snake eyes, you don't hate the dice manufacturer for it, after all...
Nothing to generate real HATRED, just some interesting footnotes in the series history of two programs.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:55 pm to KaiserSoze99
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Did you read the whole thread?
I did, but you keep harping on july recruiting as the basis of all-time program status.
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LSU has done a lot more on-field success recently than A&M, but why?
Why doesnt matter. Excuses dont matter. You cant say if you had different coaches it would be different bc that is the programs fault. See how this works?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:57 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:the odds of him being biggerlsufan?
Why do you lurk the Zoo regularly Choctaw?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:00 pm to More beer please
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I did, but you keep harping on july recruiting as the basis of all-time program status.
Oh. You're talking about all-time v. now? That's where we are going wrong. Prior to the 1980's we were a shittastic program all the way back to 1940, no question. Same with Florida prior to 1990. All-time is irrelevant to now.
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Why doesnt matter. Excuses dont matter. You cant say if you had different coaches it would be different bc that is the programs fault. See how this works?
So A&M was light years ahead of LSU in the 1990?
Look, I am not saying that A&M is a BETTER program than LSU. I am just saying that the difference between the two RIGHT NOW is negligible, instead of "light years" like several posters stated. But, LSU fans can't accept that for some reason. I just don't get it. It's plain as day, but pride/arrogance will not allow it.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:02 pm to KaiserSoze99
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You skipped where I showed this past year's rankings. Again, we deviate from the point because there is a shitload of deflection.
You skipped the part where I said once A&M can string together several top classes with the cupboards full, then I'll be impressed. Sumlin is selling recruits playing time and filling spots on a depleted roster (talent wise compared to Bama, LSU, UGA, and UF). ONE CLASS DOES NOT AN ELITE PROGRAM MAKE.
LSU is ahead of A&M for a few reasons:
1) Les Miles is not leaving LSU for another program or the NFL.
2) Les Miles can recruit.
3) LSU fights no one for the bulk of instate talent which is abundant.
4) Les Miles can sustain an elite program. His detractors have been calling for the demise of LSU football under his direction for 8 years. See it yet? If you do, you're a fool.
Those four points mean LSU isn't going anywhere.
How long will Sumlin be at A&M? How long will Texas and Mack be down thus affording A&M recruiting wins in TX? How do we know Sumlin can sustain an elite program? These are all intangibles for A&M whereas LSU and Miles have stood toe-to-toe with the nation's best for 8 years. Building a program isn't hard. Ask Urban Meyer, and Nick Saban, and Pete Carrol, and Jim Tressel, and Bob Stoops about SUSTAINING an elite program. So yes, you Aggies be excited and have pride in your program that appears to be on the upswing. But realize when you thump your chest and scream, "look at me, look at me, look at me" after one year, the established programs know: you haven't done shite, yet.
So yes, given the intangibles, I do say LSU is light years ahead of A&M. Tere are too many question marks about sustainability in a highly, highly competitive conference and division regarding A&M.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:03 pm to KaiserSoze99
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instead of "light years" like several posters stated
it may not be "light years" but it sure as frick isnt "negligible"
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:06 pm to KaiserSoze99
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You can't really use that metric after 2012's results.
There have been plenty of coaches who've made serious noise at their respective programs early on only to be fired soon after. Ask Bama (Shula), ask Florida (Zook)...hell, Ole Miss fans thought Nutt was the second coming of Jesus after 2 good seasons...oops.
Forgive us when we aren't running to nearest jar to fill over ONE season when time and time again, history proves one season rarely means shite.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:11 pm to ibldprplgld
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:14 pm to WestCoastAg
Strong to quite strong
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:18 pm to ibldprplgld
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LSU is ahead of A&M for a few reasons:
1) Les Miles is not leaving LSU for another program or the NFL.
2) Les Miles can recruit.
3) LSU fights no one for the bulk of instate talent which is abundant.
4) Les Miles can sustain an elite program. His detractors have been calling for the demise of LSU football under his direction for 8 years. See it yet? If you do, you're a fool.
Those four points mean LSU isn't going anywhere.
1. It is pure speculation to infer that Sumlin is leaving A&M for any reason. No coach has left A&M on his own terms since BEAR MOTHERfrickING BRYANT. But we poached Jackie from Pitt and Fran (although he sucked) from Bama, which tells you several things.
2. Apparently so can Sumlin at A&M, but I only have 2013 and 2014 to work with here.
3. You can only sign 25, and Texas is vastly abundant in talent.
4. Does that make LSU "light years" ahead of A&M?
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How long will Sumlin be at A&M? How long will Texas and Mack be down thus affording A&M recruiting wins in TX? How do we know Sumlin can sustain an elite program? These are all intangibles for A&M whereas LSU and Miles have stood toe-to-toe with the nation's best for 8 years. Building a program isn't hard. Ask Urban Meyer, and Nick Saban, and Pete Carrol, and Jim Tressel, and Bob Stoops about SUSTAINING an elite program. So yes, you Aggies be excited and have pride in your program that appears to be on the upswing. But realize when you thump your chest and scream, "look at me, look at me, look at me" after one year, the established programs know: you haven't done shite, yet.
Texas is still recruiting very well. It's Oklahoma and Okie State that are suffering with the SEC in Texas. There is still nothing establishing this "light years" difference.
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So yes, given the intangibles, I do say LSU is light years ahead of A&M. Tere are too many question marks about sustainability in a highly, highly competitive conference and division regarding A&M.
Do you seriously think that those same "intangibles" don't apply to any other program in the SEC or anywhere else? Is anybody calling Tennessee "elite" right now?
It's the same old discussion. We look back over 120 years and say that program A is way ahead of program B, because of what happened in 1940.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:19 pm to KaiserSoze99
No words
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:20 pm to LSUNV
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No words
what?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:22 pm to KaiserSoze99
Just laughing at the fact of how similar our fan bases are! No wonder we hate each other
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:22 pm to cyde
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Nothing to generate real HATRED, just some interesting footnotes in the series history of two programs.
Yep, with Stallings still kicking, it will be hard to generate a lot of hatred between the 2 fan bases unless they win a couple more games against us. It was kinda nostalgic to play them but that shiz is wearing thin after last year.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:24 pm to LSUNV
That's the answer right there.
By I also heard that some aggie paw paws grandbaby had tiger fans knock her ice cream cone out of her hand
By I also heard that some aggie paw paws grandbaby had tiger fans knock her ice cream cone out of her hand
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:25 pm to danfraz
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:26 pm to MWP
a lot of it to is because you guys still got to the BCS championship so the overall feeling is that you guys dont care that we beat you because you still got the desired result. now had ksu not fricked up then things might be a little different considering we would have ended your 3 out of 4 bid
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:30 pm to KaiserSoze99
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1. It is pure speculation to infer that Sumlin is leaving A&M for any reason.
It is pure speculation to say he definitively isn't.
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No coach has left A&M on his own terms since BEAR MOTHERfrickING BRYANT.
Past coach's decisions while at A&M have nothing to do with Mr. Sumlin's professional decisions. You can't speak to that definitively either.
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4. Does that make LSU "light years" ahead of A&M?
I have said it does; whether or not you agree with it is your prerogative. Nothing I have seen from Sumlin indicates to me he will without a doubt, 100% raise A&M to LSU's level, which much to your chagrin, is much higher than A&M's.
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Texas is still recruiting very well. It's Oklahoma and Okie State that are suffering with the SEC in Texas. There is still nothing establishing this "light years" difference.
Therein is my point: Texas A&M has benefited from other teams not recruiting as well this year. And please Aggie, everyone knows Mack is washed up at UT and isn't recruiting to the school's potential. Everyone in the nation knows UT is down right now. Aggie just hopes it's because of their new-found, johnny come lately success. Everyone else knows better.
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Do you seriously think that those same "intangibles" don't apply to any other program in the SEC or anywhere else? Is anybody calling Tennessee "elite" right now?
I'm sorry, I missed the part where we were talking about other SEC programs or specifically Tennessee. The discussion at hand is LSU vs A&M RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW, yes, there are several unknowns for A&M whereas LSU under Saban and now Miles has been tried and true. You have (probably unbeknownst to yourself) proven my initial point: a staff that can establish and sustain an elite program is not commonplace. LSU and Miles have established that and stood 8 years at elite status.
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It's the same old discussion. We look back over 120 years and say that program A is way ahead of program B, because of what happened in 1940.
I'm not talking about LSU's entire history. I'm talking about this staff's ability to keep LSU nationally elite versus the unknowns surround A&M's staff to do the same. Stop deflecting. The truth is, YOU DON'T KNOW.
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