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A statistics nerd on Reddit plugged all 128 teams into a computer model
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:28 pm
Results are interesting.
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SEC National Rankings
4 Alabama
6 Arkansas
7 Georgia
9 Mississippi State
12 LSU
13 Ole Miss
19 Florida
20 Missouri
21 Tennessee
24 Texas A&M
25 Auburn
31 South Carolina
64 Kentucky
71 Vanderbilt
Observations
The SEC really is the real deal. The reason there is SEC Bias in the media is because they produce. Even using unbiased numbers like I do, the SEc is on top.
-I don't care what my model says, Alabama is not going 12-0. They play the #2 toughest schedule according to my system, and they WILL slip along the way. Are they the best team in the SEC? Probably, but the league is too good this year to produce an unbeaten champ.
-Auburn is the surprise last place team in the West. I think 6-6 is underballing them, they are the 3rd best team in the division IMO behind Alabama and Arkansas. Auburn fans before attacking me, keep in mind my model doesn't take into account coaching changes(how can you objectively measure it?) so the Muschamp factor is not present here, so combine losing a lot of offensive production with the fact my model doesn't factor in a defensive coaching improvement, you have 6-6. With that being said, I think the predictions for them to win the SEC may be a bit too optimistic. Like every SEC team, the schedule is tough, but with road games at Arkansas, Texas A&M. and LSU, and home games against Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi State, getting out of that with less than 3 losses will be a challenge. You can tout their recruiting and "addition by subtraction" all they want, but you can do that for every other team in the league as well. Auburn has a lot of ifs - IF Jeremy Johnson is a step up, IF Will Muschamp gets the defense going, IF the recruits like Cowart pan out. I know other teams in the league, like Alabama, have IFS too. When it comes to metrics that can be objectively measured, Auburn needs their IFS to come to pass the most.
-Florida going 8-4 would have to be a success. The schedule isn't too bad, and beating Florida State is always a plus.
-Tennessee and Arkansas are the rising teams of the offseason, and both are projected to go 9-3. Arkansas plays the tougher schedule so their 9-3 would be more impressive. Tennessee has its sights on winning the division so you have to wonder if 9-3 with another loss to Florida would be a bit of a letdown.
-A lot of people are calling for Mississippi State to drop off, but my model doesn't see it. Sure, they lose STARTERS, but the problem is they don't lose as much PRODUCTION. This was a deep team last year, so the guys who didn't start last year who are replacing the starters produced, they just didn't start. #9 might be a bit too high, but a 9-3 record is perfectly reasonable.
-Time for Texas A&M fans to put up or shut up. I know we all joke about the iPhone post, but how well would another 7-5 season and 3rd straight non-winning SEC record go over with the A&M fanbase? If they view it as a positive, its proof that there was more to the iPhone post than what we gave it credit for. Especially with a favorable schedule and the easiest East crossover draw in the division.
-Georgia may be projected to go 9-3 but they are closer to 12-0 than you think. Their 3 losses are by 5 points combined. A playoff bid could very well be on the line in that finale vs. Georgia Tech. Will this be the year they avoid the Richt special(losing a game they shouldn't)?
-What happens to Spurrier if South Carolina goes 6-6 again? Does he retire?
-Kentucky is the hard luck loser here. Will they be better? Yes, but so will the rest of the league. I do think they will win one of the home games against Florida, Missouri, Auburn, and Tennessee. But that road game against Vanderbilt is a must win. There is the path to bowl eligibility right there. Steal a SEC home game, win the rivalry game vs. Louisville and win at Vanderbilt. AKA The Rich Brooks path, king of bowl bids despite going 2-6 in the league.
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SEC National Rankings
4 Alabama
6 Arkansas
7 Georgia
9 Mississippi State
12 LSU
13 Ole Miss
19 Florida
20 Missouri
21 Tennessee
24 Texas A&M
25 Auburn
31 South Carolina
64 Kentucky
71 Vanderbilt
Observations
The SEC really is the real deal. The reason there is SEC Bias in the media is because they produce. Even using unbiased numbers like I do, the SEc is on top.
-I don't care what my model says, Alabama is not going 12-0. They play the #2 toughest schedule according to my system, and they WILL slip along the way. Are they the best team in the SEC? Probably, but the league is too good this year to produce an unbeaten champ.
-Auburn is the surprise last place team in the West. I think 6-6 is underballing them, they are the 3rd best team in the division IMO behind Alabama and Arkansas. Auburn fans before attacking me, keep in mind my model doesn't take into account coaching changes(how can you objectively measure it?) so the Muschamp factor is not present here, so combine losing a lot of offensive production with the fact my model doesn't factor in a defensive coaching improvement, you have 6-6. With that being said, I think the predictions for them to win the SEC may be a bit too optimistic. Like every SEC team, the schedule is tough, but with road games at Arkansas, Texas A&M. and LSU, and home games against Alabama, Georgia, and Mississippi State, getting out of that with less than 3 losses will be a challenge. You can tout their recruiting and "addition by subtraction" all they want, but you can do that for every other team in the league as well. Auburn has a lot of ifs - IF Jeremy Johnson is a step up, IF Will Muschamp gets the defense going, IF the recruits like Cowart pan out. I know other teams in the league, like Alabama, have IFS too. When it comes to metrics that can be objectively measured, Auburn needs their IFS to come to pass the most.
-Florida going 8-4 would have to be a success. The schedule isn't too bad, and beating Florida State is always a plus.
-Tennessee and Arkansas are the rising teams of the offseason, and both are projected to go 9-3. Arkansas plays the tougher schedule so their 9-3 would be more impressive. Tennessee has its sights on winning the division so you have to wonder if 9-3 with another loss to Florida would be a bit of a letdown.
-A lot of people are calling for Mississippi State to drop off, but my model doesn't see it. Sure, they lose STARTERS, but the problem is they don't lose as much PRODUCTION. This was a deep team last year, so the guys who didn't start last year who are replacing the starters produced, they just didn't start. #9 might be a bit too high, but a 9-3 record is perfectly reasonable.
-Time for Texas A&M fans to put up or shut up. I know we all joke about the iPhone post, but how well would another 7-5 season and 3rd straight non-winning SEC record go over with the A&M fanbase? If they view it as a positive, its proof that there was more to the iPhone post than what we gave it credit for. Especially with a favorable schedule and the easiest East crossover draw in the division.
-Georgia may be projected to go 9-3 but they are closer to 12-0 than you think. Their 3 losses are by 5 points combined. A playoff bid could very well be on the line in that finale vs. Georgia Tech. Will this be the year they avoid the Richt special(losing a game they shouldn't)?
-What happens to Spurrier if South Carolina goes 6-6 again? Does he retire?
-Kentucky is the hard luck loser here. Will they be better? Yes, but so will the rest of the league. I do think they will win one of the home games against Florida, Missouri, Auburn, and Tennessee. But that road game against Vanderbilt is a must win. There is the path to bowl eligibility right there. Steal a SEC home game, win the rivalry game vs. Louisville and win at Vanderbilt. AKA The Rich Brooks path, king of bowl bids despite going 2-6 in the league.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:30 pm to anc
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-Georgia may be projected to go 9-3 but they are closer to 12-0 than you think. Their 3 losses are by 5 points combined. A playoff bid could very well be on the line
blows my mind people are this high on us when we don't have the slightest frickin clue what to expect from QB.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:31 pm to anc
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6 Arkansas
This guy gets it.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:31 pm to WG_Dawg
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blows my mind people are this high
Mark Richt is fricking pissed
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:32 pm to olddawg26
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Georgia Fan
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lolburn
Water is wet
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:32 pm to anc
Why do people keep dragging shite from Reddit over here this offseason?
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:33 pm to anc
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-Time for Texas A&M fans to put up or shut up.
this guy a ranter?
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:34 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Reddit sucks dick
you would know I guess...

Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:35 pm to Gradual_Stroke
If A&M was above LSU on that "list" one of your aggies would've posted it here first.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:35 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Reddit sucks dick
I mean it is a good place for some stuff. I check there daily for deals on Steam games.
I don't go there for my college football idiocy, that is why I am here.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:36 pm to Gradual_Stroke
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Jesus Christ
Do y'all not read or something? It doesn't take very long to go through the summary. It's not like you're opening up the dude's model and analyzing it.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:38 pm to cardboardboxer
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Why do people keep dragging shite from Reddit over here this offseason?
The model is interesting.
For example, for Mississippi State, the model shows that they are most like 2011 Oklahoma State (12-1), 2012 Arkansas (3-8), or 2013 Michigan (7-6).
If you look at the schedule, we have six games that are in the middle quintile for winning and losing. That's six games that the model feels that could go either way (Arkansas 2012 they all went wrong, Okie State 2011 all went right, and Michigan 2013 went some wrong some right).
Alabama only has four games in the middle quintile. That means that they basically start with eight wins. No one else has that kind of dominance.
This post was edited on 8/25/15 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:39 pm to anc
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Tennessee has its sights on winning the division so you have to wonder if 9-3 with another loss to Florida would be a bit of a letdown
We haven't won 9 regular season games since 2007. Losing to Florida again would BLOW ABSOLUTE DONKEY DICK, but 9-3 wouldn't be a letdown especially with a shot at a 10 win season after the bowl.
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:40 pm to anc
Props to the guy for doing the work, its just a subjective list, but there is a glaring issue using statistical data from past teams in CFB
Posted on 8/25/15 at 3:40 pm to anc
Did he use this same model last year? If so, what were the results?
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