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re: A short breakdown of the Guice rape allegations
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:54 pm to SidewalkTiger
Maybe the FBI guys can take a look at this when they're done getting the basketball coach fired.
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Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:55 pm to tigerfan88
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Possibly. He was also allegedly involved in some drug stuff
Thank you.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:55 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Maybe the FBI guys can take a look at this when they're done getting the basketball coach fired.
Why?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:57 pm to SidewalkTiger
Certainly someone needs to put a stop to the rampant law breaking and cheating down there. It's apparent the school can't do it.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:57 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Certainly someone needs to put a stop to the rampant law breaking and cheating down there. It's apparent the school can't do it.
Says an Alabama fan.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:59 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Maybe the FBI guys can take a look at this when they're done getting the basketball coach fired.
These kinds of ignorant statements always amuse me.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
Last I checked we didnt have our coach on FBI tapes.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 12:59 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I was asking if this was possibly part of the unreported off-field incidents (and not as a smartass either).
My point was that the author would not have used those words to describe his behavior if he had been referring to rape (not being a smartass either). So, no, I doubt that particular person knew about that. He/she was probably referring to other red flags.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:00 pm to SidewalkTiger
Innocent until proven guilty, but a big question is how much did Coach O know? Sounds like he knew quite a bit. Yikes.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It looks as though the ball was dropped possibly by the Title IX department and the tennis coach in the second case.
To expand further on that, in Title IX you don't have to have a formal complaint to investigate. You're still obligated in that department to investigate the claim. If all they did was ask her if she wanted to file a formal complaint, that could be a Title IX issue.
Agree that in a perfect world the school shouldn't be responsible for that action. But unfortunately, it is. And you receive a frickton of training about your responsibilities in that case too, so you should know if you're in the department dealing with that.
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Question 1:
What is the nature of a school’s responsibility to address sexual misconduct?
Answer:
Whether or not a student files a complaint of alleged sexual misconduct or otherwise asks the school to take
action, where the school knows or reasonably should know of an incident of sexual misconduct, the school
must take steps to understand what occurred and to respond appropriately.2 In particular, when sexual
misconduct is so severe, persistent, or pervasive as to deny or limit a student’s ability to participate in or benefit
from the school’s programs or activities, a hostile environment exists and the school must respond.
Department of Ed Title IX doc (PDF)
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:02 pm to nicholastiger
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Why would you sue the NCAA and not LSU?
Cause we are broke.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:If the NFL knew about the off-the-field incidents at LSU that went unreported, then the LSU Administration may be in deep shite. Especially if the tennis and diving coaches and the Title IX folks are still on staff.
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Will Brinson
@WillBrinson
Per @RapSheet on Derrius Guice just now: “He was described as ‘high maintenance’ and ‘immature’” and had off-field incidents at LSU that went unreported.
8:47 PM · Apr 27, 2018·Tweetbot for Mac
I can't imagine the NCAA trying to build their defense against this woman's law suit without dragging LSU through an investigation.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:08 pm to nicholastiger
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Why would you sue the NCAA and not LSU?
Their defense is that they literally do nothing but hand out fines and bowl bans.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:08 pm to BluegrassBelle
I would think not having the actual victim willing to even give a statement is pretty much a non-starter even given the heightened requirements of Title IX.
Regardless, even if that constitutes a technical Title IX violation, the actual facts don’t give rise to some nefarious athletic department plot to silence rape victims
Regardless, even if that constitutes a technical Title IX violation, the actual facts don’t give rise to some nefarious athletic department plot to silence rape victims
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:09 pm to RT1941
There has to be an investigation into how LSU handled this and if anyone did screw up, tried to cover it up, look the other way or whatever, they need to be fired. I don't care who it is.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:10 pm to Rhino5
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Innocent until proven guilty, but a big question is how much did Coach O know? Sounds like he knew quite a bit. Yikes.
Based on what?
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:11 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Maybe the FBI guys can take a look at this when they're done getting the basketball coach fired.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:12 pm to tigerfan88
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Regardless, even if that constitutes a technical Title IX violation, the actual facts don’t give rise to some nefarious athletic department plot to silence rape victims
Honestly it depends on how bad they’ve fricked up how they investigate claims.
You can’t really feign the “oh we didn’t know that” because they absolutely drill it into your brain if you’re staff in an education setting (particularly higher ed).
They’re pretty hardass about following Title IX procedure so any potential victim doesn’t feel intimidated not to report. Or that their concern won’t be heard. LSU opens themselves up to the criticism that they didn’t give a frick about accusations if they half arse it.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:14 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Based on what?
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“I probably would have lost my (expletive) on him.” He said LSU head football coach Ed Orgeron brought up the subject of his then-girlfriend and Guice about a year after the alleged assault, telling the athlete he shouldn’t be bothered by it. “(Orgeron) said, ‘Everybody’s girlfriend sleeps with other people,’ ” the former player told USA TODAY.
Posted on 8/19/20 at 1:16 pm to Rhino5
Sounds like Orgeron was trying to make the kid feel better since Guice was bragging about fricking his girlfriend.
Not sure how you concluded O knew "quite a bit" about rape allegations from that statement.
Not sure how you concluded O knew "quite a bit" about rape allegations from that statement.
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