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A ranking for every conference for every decade since the 1930s (SEC tops by far)

Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:18 pm
Posted by tattoo
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:18 pm
The following rankings are based on a CFN listing which is basically a compilation of AP final poll results for each year of a decade. 25 pts for finishing num 1...1 for 25. Then I calculated the pts for each team in a conference for that decade and added them plus the number of teams to get a final ranking for each decade. Interestingly and to my own surprise, the SEC was the top ranked conf each decade except the 50s when Bama was down and only finished 23rd. The SEC usually led in teams and points, demonstrating that even though it is good at the top, it is not a top-heavy conf. The Big 8 and at times the Big 10 were. The other conferences are fairly far behind the SEC and Big 10. The SEC was the top conference even in the "down" 70s and 80s. Of course, sometimes the diffrence between 1 and 2, 2 and 3 may be irrelevant. Or maybe no one had a great decade. The ACC was worse than I thought as was the PAC6/8/10/12.

(In general, if a team was in a conference for half the decade, I included them.)

(There are no doubt several errors since I did much of this in my head and by hand. So, check em out. But I think they won't materially affect much.)


30s ( 1936-1939) (Bama was 50-6-2, 2 NCs, 2 RB wins from 1930-35. I.e., was higher than 5 for the entire decade. LSU 40-15-6 1 Sug Bowl loss. UT 46-11-2 no bowls.)
1:.SEC: Bama 5, UT 5, LSU 10, Tulane 21 (4, 63)
2:.Big10: Minn 3, NW 14, OSU 19 (3, 42)
3.SWC: TCU 9, A&M 18, Ark 23 (4, 27)
4.ACC: Duke 3 (1, 23)
5.PACx: USC 10, Wash 21 (2, 21)
6.Big 8: Neb 12, Mo 23 (2, 17)
Ind/Others: ND 1, Pitt 2, Fordham 7, Santa Clara 8, HC 13, Duq 14, Vill 14, Cornell 20, Carnegie Tech 23

40s
1.SEC: UT 5, UGA 8, GT 12, Bama 15, LSU 20, Miss 25 (6, 71)
2.Big10: Mich 1, OSU 6, Minn 11, NW 13 (4, 73)
3.SWC: Tex 4, SMU 19, Rice 21 (3, 33)
4.ACC: Duke 7, NC 14 (2, 31)
5.PACx: Cal 16, USC 17, Stanford 24 (3, 21)
6.Big 8: OU 14 (1,12)
Ind/O: ND 2, Army 3, Navy 9, Penn 10, Tulsa 18, Io Pre-Flight 21, BC 23

50s
1.Big10: Mich St 2, OSU 4, Wisc 5, Ill 17, Mich 17, Io 19 (6, 92)
2.SEC: GT 6, UT 7, Miss 10, AU 13, Bama 23, LSU 24 (6, 73)
3.SWC: Tex 12, TCU 14, A&M 25 (3, 27)
4ACC: Maryland 7, Clemson 21 (2, 25)
5.PACx: UCLA 9, USC 20 (2, 24)
6.Big8: OU 1 (1, 25)
Ind/O: ND 3, Army 11, Syr 15, Navy 16, Miami 21, Princeton 25

60s
1.SEC: Bama 1, LSU 7, Miss 11, UT 15, AU 19, UGA 21 (6, 82)
2.Big10: OSU 4, Purdue 12, MSU 13, Minn 16, Mich 23 (5, 62)
3.SWC: Ark 2, Tex 2 (2, 48)
4.PACx: USC 6, UCLA 10, OSU 17 (3, 45)
5.Big 8: Mo 9, Neb 14, OU 18, Kan 22, Col 25 (5, 42)
6.ACC: none
Ind/O: ND 5, PSU 8, Navy 20, GT 23

70s
1:.SEC: Bama 2, AU 13, UT 15, LSU 17, UGA 21 (5, 62)
2:.Big 8: OU 1, Neb 2, Col 20 (3, 55)
3:.Big10: Mich 4, OSU 6 (2, 42)
4:.PACx: USC 5, UCLA 16, Stanford 19, Washington 25 (4, 39)
5:.SWC: Tex 9, Ark 10, A&M 22 (37)
6:.ACC: Maryland 18, NC State 23 (2, 11)
Ind/O: ND 7, PSU 8, Ariz St 10, Hous 12, Pitt 14, Mia O. 24

80s
1:.SEC: AU 7, UGA 9, Bama 11, LSU 18, UF 22, UT 24 (6, 65)
2:.PACx: UCLA 5, USC 12, Wash 16, Ariz St 23 (48)
3:.Big 8: Neb 1, OU 4 (2, 47)
4:.Big10: Mich 3, OSU 12, Io 21 (3, 42)
5:.SWC: SMU 14, Ark 20, A&M 24 (4, 20)
6:.ACC: Clem 10 (1, 16)
Ind/O: Miami 2, PSU 6, FSU 7, BYU 15, Pitt 17, ND 19

90s
1:.SEC: UF 2, UT 4, Bama 8, AU 16, UGA 17 (5, 83)
2:.Big8/SWC/12: Neb 3, Col 10, A&M 11, KSU 13, Tex 24 (5, 69)
3:.Big10: Mich 5, PSU 6, OSU 8, Wisc 18, Io 25 (5, 68)
4:.ACC: FSU 1, NC 21, GT 23 (3, 33)
5:.PACx: Wash 14, UCLA 19, Ariz 22 (3, 23)
Ind/O: Miami 7, ND 12, VT 15, Syr 20

00s
1:.SEC: UF 5, LSU 6, UGA 7, AU 13, Bama 15, UT 20 (6, 90)
2:.Big10: OSU 4, Mich 10, Io 14, PSU 17, Wisc 23 (5, 62)
3:.Big12: Tex 1, OU 2, Neb 22 (53)
4:.ACC: Miami 8, VT 9, FSU 16 (3, 45)
5:.PACx: USC 3, Oreg 12, Wash St 25 (3, 38)
Ind/O: Boise 11, TCU 18, WVU 19, Utah 21, Louisville 23

10s (thru 2017)
1:.SEC: Bama 1, LSU 9, AU 13, UGA 14, SC 16, MSU 20, Mo 22, A&M 25 (8, 88)
2:.Big10: OSU 2, MSU 7, Wisc 11, Mich 21 (4, 63)
3:.Big12: OU 3, TCU 10, OSU 12, Bay 17 (4, 62)
4:.PACx: Stan 5, Oreg 6, USC 15, Wash 24 (4, 54)
5:.ACC: Clem 4, FSU 8 (2, 40)
Ind/O: ND 17, Boise 19, UCF 21

Some individual notes:
(1) A&M has been ranked in 6 of the 9 decades with a high water mark of 11 in the 90s.
(2) As I've often noted, LSU's history is vastly underappreciated. They have been ranked in 8 of the 9 decades, including 4 times in the top 10, with a hw mark of 6 in the 00s. I think only Bama and OSU have finished ranked in every decade. LSU is tied with UGA for 2nd only behind Bama in winning at least 1 SEC title in every decade of it's existence. LSU and UGA have won in 7 decades.
(3) Ark has been ranked in 4 decades with a hw mark of 2 in the 60s. Close but not since moving to the SEC.
(4) Missouri has been ranked 3 times, including hw mark of 9 in the 60s.
(5) Our own MSU is ranked 20 in the 10s. Congratualations. So too is SC at 16, Mo at 22 and A&M at 25. Ark just missed. The SEC newbies are adding value.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:36 pm to
AU = consistent
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1806 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

AUCE05
quote:

AU = consistent
True. Ranked in every decade since the 50s. Usually 13-16 with a hw mark of 7 in the 80s. That's funny though because their individual seasons are bi-polar or have been the last 15 years or so.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72247 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:40 pm to
Alabama.

End of story.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
18011 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 8:47 pm to
I knew you would do it.
You are a effing genius.
Posted by Rayburn8
Member since Jun 2014
1715 posts
Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:03 pm to
MSU went to the 2nd ever Orange Bowl and another one in the 30s and won the SEC in 41. Probably worth working it out for them.
This post was edited on 7/20/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 7/20/18 at 11:29 pm to
1936-2017 AP final annual poll rankings for decades 1930s-2010s. First value is number of teams, the second is the number of points based on those rankings: 25 for 1...1 for 25.

SEC:.......52 teams, 677 points, 11.98 avg rank
Big10:.....37, 546, 10.24
Big8/12:..26, 382, 10.31
PAC12:...28, 313, 13.82
SWC:......19, 192, 14.9 (30s-80s)
ACC:.......16, 224, 11.00

SEC:.......5.78 teams ranked per decade
Big10:.....4.11
Big8/12:..2.89
PAC12:...3.11
SWC:......3.17 (30s-80s)
ACC:.......1.78
Posted by Bucks2TigerFan
Member since Jun 2018
825 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 12:09 am to
Just curious, how did you come up with the rankings for a decade? I understand the 25 pts for 1st, 1 pt for 25th, but how did you decide WHO was 1st, 2nd, etc?

I picked an easy decade to look at, the 1930s, since there are only 4 years, 1936, 37, 38, 39.
For those four years, you had ND as #1, Pitt as 2...
The final poll year end rankings for those 4 years went like this:
(1) ND: 8,9,5,13
(2) Pitt: 8,1,8,NR (back then NR was below #20, the last ranking)
(3) Minn: 1,5,10,NR
(3) Duke: 11,20,3,8
(5) Bama: 4,4,13,NR
(5) Tenn: 17,NR,2,2
(7) Fordham: 15,3,15,17
(8) Santa Clara: 6,9,NR,14
(9) TCU: 16,16,1,NR
(10) LSU: 2,8,NR,NR

It doesn't seem to me that Minn and Duke are tied for 3 or that Pitt should be above Minn, just to name a couple obvious ones, so how did that happen?
Posted by tattoo
Fantasy Island
Member since Oct 2017
1806 posts
Posted on 7/21/18 at 12:38 am to
quote:

Bucks2TigerFan
quote:

Just curious, how did you come up with the rankings for a decade?
As I stated in the OP, I used CFN's list which to my understanding was a compilation of the AP poll final yearly ranking with the points being allocated as you noted.

E.g., ND would get 18 pts for being number 8, 17 for 9, 21, and 13. That's a total of 69.
Minn 25, 21, 16, 0 = 62
Duke 15, 6, 23, 18 = 62
Pitt 18, 25, 18, 0 = 61 (they had Pitt at 66)
Bama 21, 21, 13, 0 = 55 (they had Bama at 57)
etc.

They may have just made a mistake. I see where the precise point total comes from on some teams (ND, Duke, Minn) but not on others (Pitt). I only checked a few. It may have something to do with "others receiving votes" for teams that were NR. Anyway I took their lists for each individual decade. I only added 2017 to the 10s. They were close enough for me and IMO, it's a waste to put too fine a point on it anyway. It's just relatively informed people guessing. Also, the 30s were just 4 of 10 years. Bama tore it up the fist 6 years.

Duke and Minn should be tied with the precise point total by my calculations, but Pitt gets an extra 5 points. I don't know from where.
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