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re: 7 SEC players projected as 1st rounders in 2013 NFL Draft
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:12 pm to TxTiger82
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:12 pm to TxTiger82
Mock drafts are what they are. I remember mock drafts with Rob Lester being taken before Barron last summer lol. I Think. William Gholston from Michigan ST will be the top DE taken. He has ridiculous measurables.
Mock drafts have Tyler Bray as the #1 pick. Not one NFL GM will take Bray #1 overall.
I Think Mingo and Reid are LSU best pro players. Simon if he has the year most are expecting would be 3rd.
Mock drafts have Tyler Bray as the #1 pick. Not one NFL GM will take Bray #1 overall.
I Think Mingo and Reid are LSU best pro players. Simon if he has the year most are expecting would be 3rd.
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:15 pm to gatordmb89
The 2 best OLs Floyd played against (Bama & LSU)pushed him around like he was on roller skates.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:16 pm to SoFla Tideroller
He's playing out of position. He's not a 5 technique. He got pushed around because of a high pad level when playing as a DE, which is where he had to play last year because UF only had 2 or 3 on scholarship.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:22 pm to gatordmb89
UF has had about a billion 5 star D lineman in the last 6 or 7 years and the only one who lived up to the hype was Dunlap. Torrey Davis was good, but couldn't stay in school.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:24 pm to theGarnetWay
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Ok but there is no challenging an opinion that refuses to change because he can't take off his cardinal and white colored glasses. Almost no one outside of the Arkansas state lines thinks Davis > Lattimore.
I mean I can sit here and try to preach to the whole rant about how Garcia > Mallet, after all his stats were as good as some of the highest NFL by the end of 2010. But no one in their right mind would make the argument that Garcia was better than a Mallet or a Locker unless they have just decided that their guy is the best and refuse to accept any outside opinion or fact. Its the same thing with Arky fans and Knile.
Completely incorrect.
I would happily change my opinion if someone actually presented me evidence that supported their claim. As I have said at least 3 times in this thread alone, I feel that there is really only one full season that they can be compared to each other viably (2010), and in that season Knile was more successful IMO. He had more yardage, better ypc, nearly as many TDs, and played against overall better defenses. I really don't see how thinking he is the better back is all that crazy.
Also, I couldn't care less if I am the minority in thinking that. If the numbers were reversed then I would be one of the few Arkansas fans saying that I think Lattimore was better. I'm going strictly off numbers. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm sorry that the person I feel is the best RB in the conference just so happens to play for my team.
Also, I'm not really following your Garcia > Mallett analogy. Mallet had a higher completion %, higher yard per attempt average, more yardage, more TDs, and less interceptions than Garcia. Now that I'm looking, there really isn't a single thing that Garcia did better than Mallett. So yes, I do agree with you that no one in their right mind could make that argument. How this compares to Knile and Marcus since Knile had more yardage, better ypc, and played better competition is beyond me.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:37 pm to bpfergu
Don't forget more explosive 
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:40 pm to Tuscaloosa
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ETA: and there's a 0% chance Lattimore is drafted #2 overall.
Estimated Time of Arrival???
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:42 pm to bpfergu
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He had more yardage, better ypc, nearly as many TDs, and played against overall better defenses.
The fact that you use wording such as "nearly as many" to help support your Davis > Lattimore argument shows that the bias. If Davis' combined 14 TDs are 'nearly as many' as Lattimore's 19 than I guess I could say that Lattimore's 4.8 ypc are nearly as much as Davis' 6.5
Not to mention Lattimore really shines over Davis as a receiver, where Lattimore averaged 14.2 ypc in 2010 and Davis had nearly as many with 7.2
And of course Davis had more yards than Lattimore in 2010, Lattimore got hurt early in the 1st QT vs FSU in that bowl game and didn't play in the 2nd half of the UK or Arky games. Hell probably would have made up for almost all of that vs UK. Before he went out with injury he already had 3 TDs in the 1st half.
Face it, you think Davis > Lattimore because Davis has "ARKANSAS" across his chest. Just like Gamecock fans are bias for Lattimore, which is exactly why outside opinion on the 2 does matter.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:49 pm to theGarnetWay
GD Petrino for giving 12 more touchdowns to Broderick Green inside the two yard line.
WE WOULD BE WINNING THIS ARGUMENT HANDS DOWN!!!
your comments are stupid...btw
Of course Latt had more catches because that's ya'lls offense. We throw it downfield, you even said so yourself.
Then you go on to say all the games Latt missed...Have you not at least gone and checked the carries for Davis, particularly against scrubs?
WE WOULD BE WINNING THIS ARGUMENT HANDS DOWN!!!
your comments are stupid...btw
Of course Latt had more catches because that's ya'lls offense. We throw it downfield, you even said so yourself.
Then you go on to say all the games Latt missed...Have you not at least gone and checked the carries for Davis, particularly against scrubs?
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:50 pm to ConwayGamecock
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Estimated Time of Arrival???
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Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:52 pm to sugatowng
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GD Petrino for giving 12 more touchdowns to Broderick Green inside the two yard line
Nope evens out with Garcia's rushing TDs. Not to mention the fact that you brought up that Davis isn't used in short yardage situations also helps out that coveted "ypc" in favor of Davis.
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Of course Latt had more catches because that's ya'lls offense.
Wasn't comparing the amount of catches. Was comparing ypc. He had more catches and still managed more ypc? Even more impressive.
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Have you not at least gone and checked the carries for Davis, particularly against scrubs?
Ok and we also took Lattimore out when the lead got big enough, was rare, but it happened.
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:57 pm to ConwayGamecock
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ConwayGamecock
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Estimated Time of Arrival???
Posted on 4/30/12 at 2:59 pm to theGarnetWay
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Nope evens out with Garcia's rushing TDs. Not to mention the fact that you brought up that Davis isn't used in short yardage situations also helps out that coveted "ypc" in favor of Davis.
12 more rushes wasn't making a big difference...you know basic math and shite
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Ok and we also took Lattimore out when the lead got big enough, was rare, but it happened.
same thing happened to us at Columbia
Posted on 4/30/12 at 3:03 pm to sugatowng
I feel embarrassed for SC fans for actually believing that Lattimore is better that Davis. It's like they are brand new to football.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 3:04 pm to sugatowng
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12 more rushes wasn't making a big difference...you know basic math and shite
If Davis wasn't the bruiser type to be used in the goal line I assume that also means he wasn't used in other bruiser short yardage type situations. I imagine that means more than 12 times and shite.
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same thing happened to us at Columbia
Almost relevant to the conversation.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 3:04 pm to BhamDore
One should not question Braysus. His tattoo alone has enough swag to be a #1 pick.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 3:08 pm to theGarnetWay
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If Davis wasn't the bruiser type to be used in the goal line I assume that also means he wasn't used in other bruiser short yardage type situations. I imagine that means more than 12 times and shite.
This is just another dumb post...Its obvious that Latt was/is the only player in the backfield.
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Almost relevant to the conversation.
You mentioned taking out RB in blowouts...not me broseph
Posted on 4/30/12 at 3:08 pm to Al Bundy Bulldog
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I'll trust a guy from NFL.COM before the Walter Football guy
Bucky Brooks doesn't know squat either. He predicted Janzen Jackson would go in the second round to the Ravens and he ended up not even being drafted.
Posted on 4/30/12 at 3:08 pm to theGarnetWay
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If Davis wasn't the bruiser type to be used in the goal line I assume that also means he wasn't used in other bruiser short yardage type situations. I imagine that means more than 12 times and shite.
Actually thats not true. Bobby had some sort of hard on to use BG inside the 10 yard line but Knile played everywhere else on the field. He was doing the exact same thing this year with Kody Walker before he got hurt in our 3rd game and was out the rest of the season. He likes that 240+ lb. back at the goal line. Drives me crazy sometimes because you are taking your best player off of the field.
Walker's stats were absurd because he literally only came in once we were inside the 10.
Kody Walker - 20 carries - 68 yards - 3.4 ypc - 9 LNG - 5 TD
This post was edited on 4/30/12 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 4/30/12 at 3:12 pm to BhamDore
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Mock drafts are what they are. I remember mock drafts with Rob Lester being taken before Barron last summer lol. I Think. William Gholston from Michigan ST will be the top DE taken. He has ridiculous measurables.
I realize that, but when every mock draft you look at has Sam Montgomery rated as the top DE, and one of (if not THE) top defensive players, that should tell you something.
Should you take those things with a grain of salt? Sure.
But if there is a consensus, perhaps that means something.
And no, I don't care how closely you follow the NFL and the draft, etc. Every year there are people who think they know better than the experts. You seem kinda like an arm-chair GM, here.
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I Think Mingo and Reid are LSU best pro players
You do realize that your argument about "small" DEs directly contradicts your claims about Mingo being better than Montgomery, right? Just checking. I sense a certain logical disconnect with you.
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