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re: 41% graduation rate, lowest in the nation. An embarrassment to the SEC

Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:54 pm to
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Saban made sure at every school he coached there was a major a penguin could graduate from


95% of the schools on that graph have majors that penguins could graduate from, and yet to varying degrees kids aren't doing it. Having a college degree matters in the marketplace (even if it's just because it unlocks a barrier to entry to some jobs). Saban talked quite frequently about how his life experiences with being a poor kid from the holler and getting his degree made it important to him, and because of that he gave a shite about his players getting that key and made it a priority to invest in infrastructure that helped accomplish the goal.

Even if they didn't have to do a ton in their more simplistic majors relative to other areas of study, having a culture where that sort of thing matters and is celebrated is one of the things I appreciated about the man (outside of winning football games).
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Under The Gun
Member since Jul 2024
120 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Another uga fan already provided you the answer, so go back and reveal your findings


You low IQ imbecile, the answer is on the chart. A chart that plainly states the date and the years involved.

No, none of your moronic fan base gave any answers.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39323 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:56 pm to
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the answer is on the chart


So why can’t you post the answer yourself?
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:56 pm to
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If you want to impress me show me how many graduated with STEM


Now tell us about all the Equestrian champions you have down there. Somehow you people have become Vandy.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
9594 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:57 pm to
You seem enamored with me. For the record, I’m not interested.
Posted by Under The Gun
Member since Jul 2024
120 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 1:58 pm to
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So why can’t you post the answer yourself?
I did, you stupid jackass.

You simply don't have the intelligence resources to comprehend what you are seeing.

You really are a stupid person. Please tell me you don't have children.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36153 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:02 pm to
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Saban made sure at every school he coached there was a major a penguin could graduate from. Every school has one. If you want to impress me show me how many graduated with STEM, Business (other than management) or other higher level degrees like architecture or pharmacy.


The reason Alabama has such a high rate at Alabama is because Saban forced them to go to class etc. It was literally someone's job to go around to every class a player had to make sure they were in their class. Alabama also provides them with any assistance they need etc.

Many of them graduate in 3 years.

I'm sure all schools have those easy classes, and I'm sure there are many of them that go that route. You think Georgia doesn't have them?
Posted by bamameister
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Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:03 pm to
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You seem enamored with me. For the record, I’m not interested.


Yep, Vandy has got nothing on you guys. Tell us about your amazing bowling team again.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39323 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:12 pm to
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I did, you stupid jackass.


No, you forgot to. Try again……/

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Posted by Loganville Vols
Loganville Georgia
Member since Feb 2021
1240 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:42 pm to
The question for Georgia are they going to be able to keep their players out of jail?
Posted by N0T SURE
Member since Dec 2023
1802 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:57 pm to
Graduation rates don't mean shite now that everyone is paid.
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
1152 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 2:59 pm to
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You simply don't have the intelligence resources to comprehend what you are seeing.


You might want to look in the mirror when you make this statement because it sure looks like you don’t know what that data actually represents.
Posted by Sleepy_Tiger
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Aug 2021
10405 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 3:06 pm to
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Based on all your alters, it's apparent you don't like yourself.
How many Alts does this dipshit have now, He is one wierd MF
Posted by GruvenDawg
Member since Jul 2018
1152 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 3:06 pm to
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The question for Georgia are they going to be able to keep their players out of jail?


Maybe you should worry about your own program? NCAA Tennessee 100’s of violations
This post was edited on 7/29/24 at 3:10 pm
Posted by GetPiggywithIt
We suck at football
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 7/29/24 at 4:16 pm to
frick off Serraneaux alter number 77!!
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31645 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 4:57 pm to
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Saban made sure at every school he coached there was a major a penguin could graduate from. Every school has one. If you want to impress me show me how many graduated with STEM, Business (other than management) or other higher level degrees like architecture or pharmacy.
Saban had a sizeable number of his players go on to play in the NFL during his coaching career. The time commitment required to complete higher level degrees like architecture and pharmacy wouldn't exactly fit into a football player's sports career.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7571 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 5:13 pm to
It's not bullcrap. It's literally what the graphic states. This is measuring Mark Richts GSR in his last 3 classes and the transition class that he started and Kirby finished.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7571 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 5:19 pm to
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It's a straightforward set of dates.


It is. The chart itself explains that it ends with measuring the 2016 class as the most recent class.

This is because GSR gives players 8 years from enrollment to get their degree before they get counted as "not graduating. It takes a 4 year recruiting cycle.

That means (as the chart says) that the 2016 class is the most recent one that has had 8 years to get a degree. So the classes included are 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016.

That means the only Kirby Smart recruited players were from his transition year in 2016, who were mostly recruited by Mark Richt (with a couple of exceptions of guys Smart targeted late).This won't fully reflect on Smart until the results are released for the 2p19 cohort, which won't happen until 2027.

Posted by LSUdude247
Member since Oct 2014
7841 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 5:23 pm to
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To be fair and admittedly without researching, UGA probably had more guys leaving early for the draft than many other teams.


The graph factors out players who leave for draft and players who enter the portal
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7571 posts
Posted on 7/29/24 at 6:01 pm to
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What a pile of shitty excuses.

First, those people didn't graduate under Kirby, period. It doesn't matter who recruited them.

Furthermore, the number is well below 50%, which means you can't attribute 4 of them to Richt. It would need to be 0% over the Richt era and 100% over the Kirby era to be around 50%.

However, since I know how fricking pathetic you and some other Georgia fans are, Georgia football was in the 80's back then, which at the time was among the top teams on the SEC.

What a piece of shite you are to try and pin this on a former coach.

Georgia football has top graduation rate in the SEC


It's literally what the GSR measures. It measures classes recruited from 8-13 years prior to the release.

And while Kirby didn't "make" them graduate, he also didn't recruit the players unable to graduate.

And let's be honest here, all schools (including UGA) give players a ridiculous amount of academic assistance resources to help them get a degree. The biggest factors that contribute to a player being able to gradueate are:

1 - Do they want to?
2 - Are they capable?

Both of those are judgement calls in the recruiting process.

As for your link:

"The four-year average of graduation rates tracked the freshman classes which enrolled between 2003 and 2006.:

Yes, when Richt first came to UGA he did target good students. His last 5 years he took way more risks with players he targeted, letting talent outweigh things like academics and discipline. The 2013 and 2015 classes in particular had a LOT of players who didn't finish their careers at UGA. I wouldn't be shocked if many of them left for academic reasons and didn't end up getting a degree.

Do you remember Shaq Wiggins? Tramel Terry? AJ Turman? Shaun McGhee? Chauncey Rivers? Pat Allen? Jacob Park? Detric Bing-Dukes? Shaquille Fluker? Rico McGraw? Chauncey Rivers? Reggie Wilkerson? Tray Matthews? All of these guys were 4-star+ talents that Richt took risks on who ended up somewhere other than UGA either for discipline or academic reasons in his last 3 full classes (2013-2015)

Heck you may remember guys like Johnathan Abram who had to go to community college after failing academically at UGA. Abram ended up at Mississippi State. No idea if he graduated or not, but if he didn't he counted against UGA's GSR. Ended up in the NFL. Brendan Langley had similar issues but made it to the NFL after leaving UGA for Lamar. Those were talented guys that did pan out, but couldn't cut the academics at UGA. They shouldn't have been recruited to begin with.

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