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re: 2011 Bama vs 2019 LSU
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:19 pm to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:19 pm to Tuscaloosa
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That LSU team literally averaged 41 points per game against teams not named Alabama. Spin that any way you want. ETA: 41 PPG would have placed them as the 9th ranked scoring offense in the entire country and 1st in the SEC. Even with the Bama games included, LSU had the 2nd ranked scoring offense in the SEC.
If you can’t recognize the differences between that offense and the one that just drove 7 top 10 teams into the dirt, then it’s not worth having the conversation. It’s ok.
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:20 pm to Jon Ham
Maybe AR KANSAS lol 
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:20 pm to cajunbama
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2011 humiliates
2011 lost to Jordan Jefferson in Round 1.
2019 in a land slide.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:20 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Tuscaloosa
2011 Bama vs 2019 LSU
2011 LSU averaged 41 points per game against teams not named Alabama.
That Bama defense was so good that it convinced the entire world that an offense that averaged 41 points per game sucked.
Incredible.
Correct. A LOT of people were so convinced before the championship game that "Bama didn't deserve to be there" that the 2011 LSU team was hailed as one of the greatest of all time in College football.
Would the 2019 LSU team do better than the 2011 LSU team against 2011 Bama? Assuredly so. But IMHO, the 2011 Bama defense was significantly better than any team they faced this year, and they had truckloads of speed to boot. It's not just about stats, sometimes its about matchups.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:22 pm to iglass
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Correct. A LOT of people were so convinced before the championship game that "Bama didn't deserve to be there" that the 2011 LSU team was hailed as one of the greatest of all time in College football.
Don't kid yourself. Everyone knows Les crippled the LSU offense that night. The players are still pissed at him to this day. Ask T-Bob, Jefferson, and Will Blackwell
That 2011 Bama defense would not know how to handle LSU in a bunch or spread formation. Sure they had the players, but no one has enough to cover 3 WR's TE, RB and spy a possible running threat at QB while still getting enough pressure. Then throw in that it was impossible to rattle Burrow
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:22 pm to Tuscaloosa
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2011 LSU averaged 41 points per game against teams not named Alabama.
Are we really comparing the 2011 LSU offense with the 2019 LSU offense?
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:22 pm to iglass
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But IMHO, the 2011 Bama defense was significantly better than any team they faced this year, and they had truckloads of speed to boot. It's not just about stats, sometimes its about matchups.
So better that they lost at home.....
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:23 pm to smooth99
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If you can’t recognize the differences between that offense and the one that just drove 7 top 10 teams into the dirt, then it’s not worth having the conversation. It’s ok.
Well, yeah, there are differences. Nobody is arguing otherwise. However, to pretend that 2011 Bama team shut down a trash LSU offense is patently absurd. Disingenuous at absolute best. 2019 LSU scored an average of one touchdown more per game than the 2011 LSU team scored against teams not named Alabama.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:25 pm to smooth99
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So better that they lost at home.....
The defense gave up 3 field goals on 239 yards of total offense.
Yes, that 2011 defense was drastically better than any offense they faced that year - by a wide margin. The loss at home doesn't change that.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:27 pm to Jon Ham
The Bama 2011 D against this offense would be fantastic, but that Bama offense wasn't anything special. Our defense shut down Oklahoma and Clemson in the playoffs (both I believe to be much better than that Alabama 2011 team).
Bama also had a huge advantage in 2011 of having already played LSU. They had a huge chip on their shoulder and proved they were legit the better team despite what had happened in November. If Oklahoma State had gotten bumped to #2 purely from the BCS not wanting two teams from the same conference, 2011 Bama team is remembered as another super talented team that had a really good but not great year.
Bama also had a huge advantage in 2011 of having already played LSU. They had a huge chip on their shoulder and proved they were legit the better team despite what had happened in November. If Oklahoma State had gotten bumped to #2 purely from the BCS not wanting two teams from the same conference, 2011 Bama team is remembered as another super talented team that had a really good but not great year.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:28 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Well, yeah, there are differences. Nobody is arguing otherwise. However, to pretend that 2011 Bama team shut down a trash LSU offense is patently absurd. Disingenuous at absolute best. 2019 LSU scored an average of one touchdown more per game than the 2011 LSU team scored against teams not named Alabama.
Ignorance is bliss. Didn’t say they were trash. The 2019 offense was legendary. The 2011 offense was decent. (Check the yardage) 2011 scoring was helped by defensive and special teams scoring in addition to tons of short fields. Talk about disingenuous. It’s ok...be salty. Best season in the history of college football. Not even debatable.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:29 pm to smooth99
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Ignorance is bliss. Didn’t say they were trash. The 2019 offense was legendary. The 2011 offense was decent. (Check the yardage) 2011 scoring was helped by defensive and special teams scoring in addition to tons of short fields. Talk about disingenuous. It’s ok...be salty. Best season in the history of college football. Not even debatable.
Move those goal posts
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:30 pm to Tuscaloosa
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However, to pretend that 2011 Bama team shut down a trash LSU offense is patently absurd.
No it's not. That LSU offense was down by 14 to both Arkansas and UGA prior to the Honey Badger lighting a spark. That LSU offense was predictable and when Miles decided he'd not change the game plan from November we were walking into an onslaught. Seriously, Look up the player's comments years later. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that 2011 Bama was not 21 pts better than LSU that night or any other night.
Hats off to Saban and Bama that night for getting the victory, but the players' comments post game are telling.
MIles destroyed that teams chances prior to kickoff when he deviated from planned plays practiced. People can talk about Greg Williams spying for Saban until they are blue in the face. Even if true, which it's likely not, HS coaches could have watched film on 2011 LSU in Nov and watched to see if Miles was dense enough to try what worked before. As if Bama and Saban wouldn't have a plan in place with more than a month and an extra week to prepare.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:32 pm to Solo Cam
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As long as the forward pass is allowed, you don’t stand a chance against the greatest ever
He didn’t say 95 Nebraska cornhole
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:34 pm to Crimson K
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He didn’t say 95 Nebraska cornhole
This is an impossible argument. Different era of FB. It wasn't too long ago that dominant defense won Championships.
Now it's high powered offenses.
No one can say one way or the other if the option attack by 95 Nebraska would stand a chance today. Both Offenses and defenses have evolved to become slimer, quicker, and due to rule changes WR's are no longer afraid to go over the middle.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:38 pm to Jon Ham
Being that 2019 Auburn's defense held 2019 LSU to 23 then 2011 Bama would have shut them down. Plus they had a better Offense than 2019 Auburn. If 2019 LSU had 2011 LSU's defense then it would be a completely different story.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:41 pm to Tuscaloosa
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That Bama defense was so good that it convinced the entire world that an offense that averaged 41 points per game sucked.
Incredible.
With a fricking mulligan after getting bitch slapped on their own field
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:41 pm to cajunbama
Well considering the 2011 Bama team lost to LSU's 2011 archaic offense once I would give the nod to 2019 LSU. Bama scores in the 20's, but LSU gets at least 30+.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:42 pm to Rabern57
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Being that 2019 Auburn's defense held 2019 LSU to 23
Wet & sloppy field
500 yards of offense
It was an outlier, not the norm
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:44 pm to Rabern57
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2019 Auburn's defense
Aided by a tropical storm that weekend. The field conditions slowed down LSU and then Auburn threw a defense at LSU that they hadn't seen.
Burrow and the staff figured it out halfway through though and adjusted. If we saw it again we would have been ready to pick it apart. Burrow's words not mine.
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