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Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:27 pm to SoberAg
Posted on 1/15/15 at 2:32 pm to LSUNV
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Using the B1G and any northern conference as an example is not helping your case.
Fine. I will come back south.
Miami- one of the best programs the last 30 years- doesn't even pay their head coach $2.5 million a year. His CV sucks, but you figure just being the coach of a southern elite program would make at least half what Sumlin makes. Why doesn't the Miami job pay more? Because of the internal politics fueled by someone who was in a Democratic presidential cabinet.
Politics matters when it comes to these institutions that are very high profile, and often are publicly funded. The reason I brought up Wincy is because when the last coach left I remember more than one thread on their forum wondering if they could pay coaches SEC money. Many thought they couldn't due to how "bad it would look."
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:04 pm to cardboardboxer
Miami is still recovering from all the sanctions and bad publicity! Even worse example 
Again, Politics and local economy has little to no effect in the situation we were discussing.
Not to mention, Chavis has a permanent residence in Tennesseee where his wife lives and he will rent an Apt most likely in college station like he did here. So the whole tax argument is out to
Again, Politics and local economy has little to no effect in the situation we were discussing.
Not to mention, Chavis has a permanent residence in Tennesseee where his wife lives and he will rent an Apt most likely in college station like he did here. So the whole tax argument is out to
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:12 pm to Tridentds
Yet ANOTHER AGGIE post about a post about A&Ms obsession with LSU.
The obsession is real.
The obsession is real.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:17 pm to JuiceTerry
Here come the white knight Bama fans ready to get anyone's back against an LSU fan 
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:20 pm to JuiceTerry
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Y'all stormed the field after beating a 4-loss Ole Miss..
Ole Miss had 4 losses when we played? Weird.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:21 pm to LSUNV
What do the sanctions have to do with coaches pay? There wasn't a punishment that restricted how much they pay Golden. Holding back because of bad publicity supports my argument.
The only way I can see this applying is if the Miami AD knew their program was screwed and then got Golden to be a cheap scapegoat. But normally ADs don't operate that way.
I don't need the Miami example though. I can go all over the country and find underpaid coaches. For example, Mark Helfrich makes $2 million as does Rich Rodriguez. PAC 12 teams have plenty of TV money, why aren't they paying more? I will tell you why- West Coast sensibilities.
Given how the costs of university education have exploded the last ten years, paying coaches huge sums- even if not a single student dime goes into it- simply looks bad. Already in Virginia there was a political push to limit coaching pay:
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If you search around on the internet you can find plenty of people criticising institutions for misplaced priorities:
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Politics do matter.
Heck, even the politics within the AD ranks matter. One reason they are reluctant to overpay for a coach is because it raises the entire market which paints a target on their back at the next meeting of the ADs.
The only way I can see this applying is if the Miami AD knew their program was screwed and then got Golden to be a cheap scapegoat. But normally ADs don't operate that way.
I don't need the Miami example though. I can go all over the country and find underpaid coaches. For example, Mark Helfrich makes $2 million as does Rich Rodriguez. PAC 12 teams have plenty of TV money, why aren't they paying more? I will tell you why- West Coast sensibilities.
Given how the costs of university education have exploded the last ten years, paying coaches huge sums- even if not a single student dime goes into it- simply looks bad. Already in Virginia there was a political push to limit coaching pay:
LINK
If you search around on the internet you can find plenty of people criticising institutions for misplaced priorities:
LINK
LINK
Politics do matter.
Heck, even the politics within the AD ranks matter. One reason they are reluctant to overpay for a coach is because it raises the entire market which paints a target on their back at the next meeting of the ADs.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:23 pm to cardboardboxer
Dear lord, mayne! Give it up already! Miami has a smaller budget than years past not because it was a punishment, it was the direct result of the punishment. Legal fees, etc. golden wasn't hired for anything else other than to clean up the image. At one point, before the sanctions, Miami had one of the top paid coaches in all of college football
And again, Politics and local economy had little to do with why Chavis left
And again, Politics and local economy had little to do with why Chavis left
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:25 pm to LSUNV
Ok fine. Then why is Oregon paying a coach that just got to a title game half a million more than we are paying Chavis?
I can accept that if you will accept that there are some places in the country where the politics of how much the most expensive public employee in the state gets paid matters. Maybe not in Louisiana, or anywhere in the south, but it is a consideration elsewhere.
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And again, Politics and local economy had little to do with why Chavis left
I can accept that if you will accept that there are some places in the country where the politics of how much the most expensive public employee in the state gets paid matters. Maybe not in Louisiana, or anywhere in the south, but it is a consideration elsewhere.
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:27 pm to cardboardboxer
Because A&M is dumb, that's why
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:28 pm to LSUNV
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Because A&M is dumb, that's why
Yall paid him only $200,000 less last year, and Auburn is paying Will even more, so that can't explain it.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:29 pm to cardboardboxer
Yeah, pretty much sums it up. We were not willing to pay somebody extra money when they don't recruit. Frank Wilson deserves a raise though
This post was edited on 1/15/15 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/15/15 at 3:34 pm to LSUNV
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We were not willing to pay somebody extra money when they don't recruit.
Yeah, look at that arsewipe not recruit.
LSUNV, I thought we were having a good discussion about the influence of regional politics on head coaching salaries. If you don't want to continue I understand- few people are used to real conversations on this forum-but please have the decency to just say you agree to disagree rather than make it about something it is not about.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I has the answers:
Part 1 of OP's question--answer--frickLSU®
Part 2--oddly--also frickLSU®
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:03 pm to Mirthomatic
Why is Chief the only one not smiling or giving a thumbs up? That pay raise should have him grining at least.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:05 pm to Big Block Stingray
He hates recruiting, don't you know?
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:07 pm to JuiceTerry
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Y'all stormed the field after beating a 4-loss Ole Miss..
A bunch of drunk students mostly. Not "Y'all" by any means. Nice troll, though.
Posted on 1/15/15 at 4:28 pm to cardboardboxer
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He hates recruiting, don't you know?
He really does and is on record saying so. That said, he'll do it now and again.
Case in point...
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