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2 of the 3 best SEC coaches of the 21st century had no ties to the South

Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:37 am
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:37 am
Nick Saban - midwestern resume in Ohio and Michigan
Urban Meyer - midwestern and western resume in Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, Colorado, and Utah

The worst thing we could have done is limit the search to former Saban assistants like we did for two decades after Bear Bryant.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84847 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:38 am to
Will be 3 of 4 here in a few years when BK is added to this list
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4249 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:39 am to
Ummm…..

West Virginia was part of the South prior to 1863.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52488 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:39 am to
Having no ties to the South isn't necessarily a bad thing if you make the right assistant hires.

It seems as if DeBoer wants to bring most of his staff with him though.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68160 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:39 am to
The entire "cultural fit" line is a canard.

Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:39 am to
I see you Bama fans have been doing homework to help convince you Deboer is a good hire. Well done.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
84847 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:40 am to
West Virginia was literally created to be a union state
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:40 am to
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Ummm….. West Virginia was part of the South prior to 1863.


Thanks for that relevant history lesson from before football was invented.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73492 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:41 am to
Congratulations. You got the next Saban on the first try.
Posted by Barry McCockinner
Member since Sep 2018
931 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:42 am to
quote:

I see you Bama fans have been doing homework to help convince you Deboer is a good hire. Well done


Why don’t you think he’s a good hire?
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7180 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:42 am to
Good point.
Posted by BDoubleEZ
Burleson, TX
Member since Sep 2021
660 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:44 am to
This narrative that a coach has to "fit in"geopgraphically with where he's coaching has been disproven time and time again yet it gets pushed everytime there's a major vacancy/hiring.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Why don’t you think he’s a good hire?


Never said he wasn’t.

My caution has been slow down with the HR hire label. He might be, but he has a lot to prove at Bama no?

Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:47 am to
Hire an SEC guy from Saban’s coaching tree (basically everyone at this point) and they never get to run their own program - constantly questioned as to why they aren’t coaching the way Saban taught them. It wouldn’t work. I prefer the clean breakup with someone who isn’t hired to copy or be another Saban.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10321 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:50 am to
West Virginia is every bit trailer park trashy as Alabama.
Posted by MillerLiteTime
Atlanta
Member since Aug 2018
2498 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:51 am to
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Congratulations. You got the next Saban on the first try.


To the contrary we hired someone with no expectations of coaching like Saban because he has never worked for him or for anyone else who worked for Saban. Its the total opposite of a bunch of idiot Bama boosters trying to bring back a good ole boys club.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11023 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:51 am to
BK has proven this is bullshite. To me, the biggest worry with this hire is his lack of years as a head coach. This is Bama we’re talking about. That doesn’t mean it won’t be a great hire in the long run. But that would just be my concern, that and the fact that he had such a good quarterback for the last two years too….would like to have seen how he would have responded w/o Penix to fully judge if he is the right guy for the job. Kind of a gamble on Bama’s part.
Posted by Fanatic4U
Member since Dec 2023
675 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:53 am to
Bammers are trying everything to justify their 8/win per season
Posted by ccsolee
Oregon
Member since Dec 2010
233 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:55 am to
What if he makes ties, since he's moving to the South? What if he crowdsources his ideas and philosophies from the HS coaches who critiqued the hire to the paper?
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105403 posts
Posted on 1/13/24 at 9:57 am to
You don’t think Bama fans will heap high expectations upon Deboer and not get restless if he doesn’t have recruiting classes and always in the mix for SEC and NC championships?

That’s rather naive if you ask me. I think he looks to be a very good coach but can he actually handle the situation he now finds himself in? Only time will tell that story. I do think he was one of three or four that you could have hired to make the best chance for a new transition from the Saban era.
This post was edited on 1/13/24 at 9:58 am
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